Yeah, its chilly here in Pittsburgh......Cold steel...ChiTraderRob wrote:There is no doubt that Winter was a huge factor in this decision.
Hossa to DET
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An if winning means that much to him he indeed made the right and safe decision. That I would never debate. From a security stand point and a common sense stand point however, if he gets injured, he could cost himself 30,40 maybe even 50 million dollars. I feel pretty sure the Pens could easily have matched that deal (particularly for one year) but it's clear Hossa loves a winner. The hell with Loyalty or anything remotely resembling that. The hell with bein on a young team with two superstar centers that could have helped you pad your stats or given you a chance to win year in and year out. I dont fault him for wanting to win, but it's clear he would have had a chance here to as well. Sorry, just really frustrated.Troy Loney wrote:I think it's as clear as day, if he was really a priority for Shero there is no way in hell that he wouldn't match a one year deal for 7.4 million. Hossa would rather play in detroit. As far as a chance of winning, detroit offers more stability than the penguins. the penguins don't even have enough players under contract for next season.Dan H wrote:Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?
It's about winning for hossa.
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Not being filthy rich and existing in anything remotely close to the level Hossa has and will reside in for the rest of his life, apparently...
How much is enough?
I'm obviously biased...I'll admit that but is the chance to make a little more dough really that important? %-wise, either offer involved a lot of money...So, I'm asking myself why would he take the security of the Pens offer and stick around for what might be a very fun ride?
Maybe money wasn't the deciding factor?
Does he want to be "the guy?"
I'm looking forward to hearing/reading his rationale....
How much is enough?
I'm obviously biased...I'll admit that but is the chance to make a little more dough really that important? %-wise, either offer involved a lot of money...So, I'm asking myself why would he take the security of the Pens offer and stick around for what might be a very fun ride?
Maybe money wasn't the deciding factor?
Does he want to be "the guy?"
I'm looking forward to hearing/reading his rationale....
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the guy was making $$ when he was considered a playoff bust...injury or not, they'll pay for his potential. you know there would be at least 1 stupid team out there ... look at all the deals that have been going on this year.nocera wrote:Of course it would play a role in his next contract if he suffered a major injury and sat out a year. He's much more of a risk than he is now.joey leo wrote:i would hate to be any of your significant others (or objects of stalkification).
you didn't put a new roll of toilet paper on! it's a betrayal! this isn't american cheese, you lied! i have no respect for you!
what's with all the jr high histrionics?
hossa made a pretty good bet. even if he gets hurt and is out all season, would it really affect what he gets next year? i doubt it.
it would have been nice to have him back, but...what can you do...he's got a really good chance to hoist the cup next year.
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I disagree. Why would an agent want his client to sign a one year deal and risk getting injured an costing his client millions of guaranteed dollars? That makes no sense.ChiTraderRob wrote:There is no doubt that Winter was a huge factor in this decision.
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It's frustrating as hell, just a big slap in the face. I really don't know how to spin it, he'd rather play for detroit.crzymike wrote:An if winning means that much to him he indeed made the right and safe decision. That I would never debate. From a security stand point and a common sense stand point however, if he gets injured, he could cost himself 30,40 maybe even 50 million dollars. I feel pretty sure the Pens could easily have matched that deal (particularly for one year) but it's clear Hossa loves a winner. The hell with Loyalty or anything remotely resembling that. The hell with bein on a young team with two superstar centers that could have helped you pad your stats or given you a chance to win year in and year out. I dont fault him for wanting to win, but it's clear he would have had a chance here to as well. Sorry, just really frustrated.Troy Loney wrote:I think it's as clear as day, if he was really a priority for Shero there is no way in hell that he wouldn't match a one year deal for 7.4 million. Hossa would rather play in detroit. As far as a chance of winning, detroit offers more stability than the penguins. the penguins don't even have enough players under contract for next season.Dan H wrote:Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?
It's about winning for hossa.
You shouldnt boo Hossa, he stuck to his word. He wanted to play for a winner and get a cup asap. He knows better than any of us which team would have a better shot at a cup next year. He played his ass off here and hopefully taught some of the guys on this team how important it is to play 2 way hockey. It hurts now, but I think Ray has some ideas on how to re-tool this roster.
Remember fellow pens fans, you are going to have Crosby and Malkin playing together for a long time, better days are ahead.
Remember fellow pens fans, you are going to have Crosby and Malkin playing together for a long time, better days are ahead.
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What you said pretty much sums it up. It hurts big time, it definitely feels like a slap in the face, a kick in the groin or someone trying to feed you a centipede when your not looking (ewwwwwww)!Troy Loney wrote:It's frustrating as hell, just a big slap in the face. I really don't know how to spin it, he'd rather play for detroit.crzymike wrote:An if winning means that much to him he indeed made the right and safe decision. That I would never debate. From a security stand point and a common sense stand point however, if he gets injured, he could cost himself 30,40 maybe even 50 million dollars. I feel pretty sure the Pens could easily have matched that deal (particularly for one year) but it's clear Hossa loves a winner. The hell with Loyalty or anything remotely resembling that. The hell with bein on a young team with two superstar centers that could have helped you pad your stats or given you a chance to win year in and year out. I dont fault him for wanting to win, but it's clear he would have had a chance here to as well. Sorry, just really frustrated.Troy Loney wrote:I think it's as clear as day, if he was really a priority for Shero there is no way in hell that he wouldn't match a one year deal for 7.4 million. Hossa would rather play in detroit. As far as a chance of winning, detroit offers more stability than the penguins. the penguins don't even have enough players under contract for next season.Dan H wrote:Wow. This move makes very little sense to me from Hossa's perspective. The Wings don't have a hugely better chance than the Pens of getting back to the finals next year. For one thing, they have to go through the West. And it would be surprising if the Pens couldn't beat one year at 7.4 mil. Factor in the chance that he'll get injured on the one-year deal, and I don't think I would have sniffed that offer if I were Hossa. Maybe the Pens wouldn't offer him any more than 6.5 mil per? Was there ever a public disclosure from the negotiations?
It's about winning for hossa.
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He's blatantly saying he'd rather just go play on a loaded team an win easily then come back here and finish the job they started last season. This is probably the only possible decision he could have made that would piss off pen's fans.nocera wrote:I love that we're upset at him for going to the Wings for less money yet if the situation were reversed and he chose more money over signing with us, we'd be all over him for being a gold digger.
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Agreed, if he took more somewhere else that would be much easier to stomach.Troy Loney wrote:He's blatantly saying he'd rather just go play on a loaded team an win easily then come back here and finish the job they started last season. This is probably the only possible decision he could have made that would piss off pen's fans.nocera wrote:I love that we're upset at him for going to the Wings for less money yet if the situation were reversed and he chose more money over signing with us, we'd be all over him for being a gold digger.
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Wait a second, who signed with the Red Wings? Marian Hossa or Jesus Christ?Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:I don't know if that is possible with Hossa on that team now. They may set a record for wins in a season, and then not lose a playoff game.NYPensFan wrote:Now the Pens have an incentive to beat Detroit next year in the cup finals! Wouldn't that be sweet?
I think you need to reevaluate your opinion of Hossa if you think he's going to make the Red Wings the greatest team of all time.
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