2014-15 Non-Pens Transactions

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Re: 2014-15 Non-Pens Transactions

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count2infinity wrote:http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

The top 3 picks are all lotto drafts. The worst the last place team could get is 4th overall. It used to be the worst the last place team could get was 2nd overall.
That's in effect next year, which I already posted on the previous page (now 2 pages ago).

This year, the 14 non-playoff teams are in the lottery. The winner of the lottery gets 1st pick. 2nd-14th is determined by standings.
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Any explanation as to why they're doing the change to the top 3? Having all 3 be lottery seems kinda excessive.
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"Competitive balance"

AKA

"We gave Edmonton 4 #1 overall picks and they still suck. We don't want them to get more"
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Avyran wrote:Any explanation as to why they're doing the change to the top 3? Having all 3 be lottery seems kinda excessive.
Knee-jerk reaction to Edmonton being bad...just a stupid thing really...
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count2infinity wrote:http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795

The top 3 picks are all lotto drafts. The worst the last place team could get is 4th overall. It used to be the worst the last place team could get was 2nd overall.
The top 3 thing will be next year, 2016. Only the #1 pick is lottery this year, 2015.
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Bow down to Bobby McK. He's the shiznit.
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meow wrote:
FLPensFan wrote:Also hearing that another trade maybe in the works and Buffalo cancelled practice.....hearing a goalie maybe shipped out.....
Enroth to Dallas has been floated around.
And has happened now...
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The Ol' Goalie Swap.
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Solid move for Buffalo. Everyone knows the key to a good tank is to have zero capable goaltenders.
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Dickie Dunn wrote:Solid move for Buffalo. Everyone knows the key to a good tank is to have zero capable goaltenders.
They are there now. Good job, GMTM
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What the....
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jwest21 wrote::scared:
Dickie Dunn wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
meecrofilm wrote:
count2infinity wrote:I'm getting my popcorn ready for the heartbreak when they don't get the #1 overall pick in Buffalo.
As long as they finished dead last though they're guaranteed McEichel.
Not necessarily, not with the new rules.

Here's a simulator: http://nhllotterysimulator.com/#/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Every non-playoff team has a chance. The worst team in the league only has a 20% chance at the #1 pick with the new lottery regulations.

Edit: Nevermind, I thought the other picks went like a lottery too. Apparently that isn't the case.
Thanks for that. First time I ran that simulator the Flyers won the lottery. Day ruined.
Flyers won it when I ran it, too! :scared:
Ran three times about 15 minutes apart (not sure that matters):

Carolina
Colorado
Ottawa

No Flyers. I stopped while ahead. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the balance of the Universe is restored.
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I ran it once and got CBJ. I'd like for that to happen.
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Supposedly Brendan lemieux's agent dad Claude informed the sabres he would not sign an ELC with them. That essentially makes him a throw in.

Even though he's good... no real trade value given the circumstances outside of including him to help drive a bigger deal as they did
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Well, hard to imagine he's lost too much as a second round pick, who is performing well, from just a handful of months ago. Is there any reason to believe he would not have approximately 2nd round value, ya think?

He might be "found money" to Buffalo in terms of this trade, but he's still an asset that carries value, right?

Like if Pittsburgh had called him for him and him alone, they wouldn't be say, "ya know, just have him, he won't sign with us..." they'd offer him to us for a 2nd though probably, right?

But yeah, it's a nice a piece to have for this trade because he might have pushed it over the top and Buffalo can justify it by saying, "eh, whatever..."
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The Eli routine is....something.
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If word got out he wasn't signing i doubt they'd replenish the 2nd they used on him but who knows. My guess is they tossed his name in the deal knowing losing him was no problem since the best they'd get is a 2nd maybe
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dodint wrote:I ran it once and got CBJ. I'd like for that to happen.
I ran it 200 consecutive times and CBJ won the lottery 37 times. Ottawa was 2nd with 20-something. Columbus and Buffalo getting the top two picks would be my preference, just for the sake of the franchises. Also wouldn't mind seeing the Wild walk away with McDavid or Eichel.
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CBJ? Why? They don't need the number one pick. They are there if it weren't for injuries.
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meow wrote:CBJ? Why? They don't need the number one pick. They are there if it weren't for injuries.
Their attendance is near the bottom of the league and the franchise could use some star power. I like Johansen, but he's not gonna put butts in the seats or attract new fans. Nothing attracts new fans like a highly touted young player.
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Dickie Dunn wrote:
meow wrote:CBJ? Why? They don't need the number one pick. They are there if it weren't for injuries.
Their attendance is near the bottom of the league and the franchise could use some star power. I like Johansen, but he's not gonna put butts in the seats or attract new fans. Nothing attracts new fans like a highly touted young player.
I think if they can ice a healthy team, those attendance numbers wouldn't be a problem. No need to gift them a superstar player after one injury riddled season.
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RyJo is a star.
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Is he? He can be, definitely. All the tools are there, but is he really a star right now?
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I guess that definition is subjective, but I find him to be a star...he's one of the league's best players...Getzlaf Jr.
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meow wrote:
Dickie Dunn wrote:
meow wrote:CBJ? Why? They don't need the number one pick. They are there if it weren't for injuries.
Their attendance is near the bottom of the league and the franchise could use some star power. I like Johansen, but he's not gonna put butts in the seats or attract new fans. Nothing attracts new fans like a highly touted young player.
I think if they can ice a healthy team, those attendance numbers wouldn't be a problem. No need to gift them a superstar player after one injury riddled season.
I'm somewhat of the mindset that gifting the best talent to the worst executives (looking at you, Winnipeg) is rewarding incompetence. If CBJ slips low enough to snag one of these really promising guys I'm okay with that.