I've come across many jazz musicians who know so much theory, it actually becomes a hindrance. The best musicians will tell you it's important to know at least some theory --- I mean, you can't play a solo without that unless you force yourself to memorize all notes within a piece, but then you may find yourself in a live setting and fall flat on your face --- but then when you play to not be thinking about it too much because you lose a lot of your playing. A player should not sound like a mathematical equation. You want excitement and spontaneity in your playing.count2infinity wrote:that night? trombone.Sarcastic wrote:What do you play, the tuba?count2infinity wrote:I played on stage at a concert with Maynard Ferguson... /jazz snob
yup... I have a jazz station or two on my pandora, but it's just for easy listening while I'm working. I don't know much of anything about advanced music techniques and theory, I just enjoy listening to it.Gaucho wrote:What if I simply like jazz?
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lol, that is a good album I posted. PF, give it a try.MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote:PFiDC's head is exploding
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At least there's something there. Go look up the many performances of John Cage's "4′33"".Sarcastic wrote:Not my cup of tea. It's just sound effects. Don't hit me.Shyster wrote:May I suggest you get a copy of the Beauborg album from new-age artist Vangelis?:Sarcastic wrote:lol... I wasn't serious with that tune. That's Free Jazz. It's one big mess. Probably the worst kind of music there is. I like to drive my mom crazy in the car when I'm driving her somewhere.
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Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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Of course.PensFanInDC wrote:Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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I tried banging my head to this. Didn't go so well...tifosi77 wrote:At least there's something there. Go look up the many performances of John Cage's "4′33"".
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Damn it...Sarcastic wrote:Of course.PensFanInDC wrote:Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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I wasn't suggesting you listen to it. I was suggesting you use it to annoy your mother.Sarcastic wrote:Not my cup of tea. It's just sound effects. Don't hit me.
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Haha, PF likes some Jazz.PensFanInDC wrote:Damn it...Sarcastic wrote:Of course.PensFanInDC wrote:Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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YOUR FACE LIKES JAZZ!!!Sarcastic wrote:Haha, PF likes some Jazz.PensFanInDC wrote:Damn it...Sarcastic wrote:Of course.PensFanInDC wrote:Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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I will annoy my g/f first. Trick is you have to make it look like you're really into it.Shyster wrote:I wasn't suggesting you listen to it. I was suggesting you use it to annoy your mother.Sarcastic wrote:Not my cup of tea. It's just sound effects. Don't hit me.
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When did this become the music thread?
IPP = going into threads to read about a topic and finding nothing related to said topic.
IPP = going into threads to read about a topic and finding nothing related to said topic.
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Was just reading the Wikipedia article about this piece. I don't know what I find more annoying: The fact that it gets applause when it is 'performed', or that Wiki says it was 'conceived' over a two-year period and uses the word 'composed' to describe the finished product. Makes me want to punch a baby. Right in it's stupid baby face.Sarcastic wrote:I tried banging my head to this. Didn't go so well...tifosi77 wrote:At least there's something there. Go look up the many performances of John Cage's "4′33"".
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JazzFanInDC?PensFanInDC wrote:YOUR FACE LIKES JAZZ!!!Sarcastic wrote:Haha, PF likes some Jazz.PensFanInDC wrote:Damn it...Sarcastic wrote:Of course.PensFanInDC wrote:Is old swing stuff like Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, and Count Basie considered jazz?
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I'm extremely fond of 4'33".
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It's a joke on pseudo-intellectuals and artsy-fartsy types who think they hear art in that. I'd seriously like to slap those commentators in the end of the video with a stinkin' fish.tifosi77 wrote:Was just reading the Wikipedia article about this piece. I don't know what I find more annoying: The fact that it gets applause when it is 'performed', or that Wiki says it was 'conceived' over a two-year period and uses the word 'composed' to describe the finished product. Makes me want to punch a baby. Right in it's stupid baby face.Sarcastic wrote:I tried banging my head to this. Didn't go so well...tifosi77 wrote:At least there's something there. Go look up the many performances of John Cage's "4′33"".
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It's not a joke, but it certainly is humurous.
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Yup, agreed. They don't think it's a joke.Gaucho wrote:It's not a joke, but it certainly is humurous.
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You don't believe that silence plays an important role in music?Sarcastic wrote:Yup, agreed. They don't think it's a joke.Gaucho wrote:It's not a joke, but it certainly is humurous.
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Often times in music, it's not about what you play, but when you don't play it (or so my jazz teacher said in high school). But the complete silence act? That's just nonsense. It's like some modern art where they're being edgy just to be edgy.
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This is a perfect example of my hatred for (apparently not all) jazz and it's musicians. Such an air of pompousness that exceeds every other genre put together.count2infinity wrote:Often times in music, it's not about what you play, but when you don't play it (or so my jazz teacher said in high school).
This is not directed at c2i, but rather his jazz teacher.
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Oh, cool, we're back on art.
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Do you mean dadaists?