Other NHL games 2014-2015 season
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Snooty?
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Idoit40fans wrote:Most teams have a guy like him as the #2 center...or wish the did. The blackhawks come to mind immediately.
Second line center is rarely a "go-to guy".
He was offered #2 center money to play #3 center here, on a team that rarely saw the #1 and #2 centers play simultaneously for several seasons. Meaning he would have plenty of ice time as the #2 center throughout the season, plus #1 PK time, plus #2 PP time, regardless of who was healthy. My original assessment stands... he will never see a situation more advantageous to his style of play than what he had here. He was a perfect fit for the Pens, and the Pens were a perfect fit for him.
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I doubt any guy who really wants to be a #2, and has that option elsewhere, looks at the option involving his teammates getting injured to be #2 as a perfect fit.
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I give up. Being #2 on a team that is unlikely to accomplish anything is clearly better than being #3/sometimes #2, and important part of a team that will be a threat every year. Who wants to be a part of a team that has a legitimate chance to win the Stanley Cup year in an year out? It's clearly better to chase some personal glory on a crappy team (that isn't going to happen anyway when the spotlight is suddenly on you) than be a part of a team that wins, right? Not to mention, regardless of what he thinks was a perfect fit, the facts and stats show he was a perfect fit on the Pens. Players never make poor career decisions. I think I really must be too old to understand motivation in sports anymore. Now get off my lawn.bhaw wrote:I doubt any guy who really wants to be a #2, and has that option elsewhere, looks at the option involving his teammates getting injured to be #2 as a perfect fit.
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Jordan Staal wrote:“Playing behind Sid and Geno (Evgeni Malkin) for so long,” Staal said, “I didn't know how it would end up. I wanted to test the waters.”
http://triblive.com/sports/2084548-85/s ... enter-eric" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Jordan Staal wrote:“With Sid being out most of the year and me getting the opportunity to be more of an offensive guy,” Staal said, “I felt really comfortable in that role. I wanted to explore. I wanted to see if I could do some good things in that role. I wanted to challenge myself on a different team.”
On a separate note:
Mike Green seems to be the biggest beneficiary of Barry Trotz thus far. 7 GP, 3G, 5A, +6. Only 1G, 0A on the PP; which in itself is a bad thing, but highlights how strong his ES production has been.
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I think Staal hadn't won a cup already his thought process might have been different. He had one a cup though, so he wanted to go play with is brother and get paid $$$$ to do so. His motivations at that point were more about family(and possibly having a bigger role in the offense) than winning another cup I think, and I totally get that.
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I don't think anyone disagrees with your assessment? Thats not what its about. But its Staal's life. If he wanted to play with his brother and be a number 2 center and get more ice time in that specific role its his choice.Sigwolf wrote:I give up. Being #2 on a team that is unlikely to accomplish anything is clearly better than being #3/sometimes #2, and important part of a team that will be a threat every year. Who wants to be a part of a team that has a legitimate chance to win the Stanley Cup year in an year out? It's clearly better to chase some personal glory on a crappy team (that isn't going to happen anyway when the spotlight is suddenly on you) than be a part of a team that wins, right? Not to mention, regardless of what he thinks was a perfect fit, the facts and stats show he was a perfect fit on the Pens. Players never make poor career decisions. I think I really must be too old to understand motivation in sports anymore. Now get off my lawn.bhaw wrote:I doubt any guy who really wants to be a #2, and has that option elsewhere, looks at the option involving his teammates getting injured to be #2 as a perfect fit.
I don't think the Pens nor Staal were wrong or handled the situation poorly. Both were well within their rights. He won a cup, he was getting his contract either way. If he so chooses to want more playing time, more 5 on 5 time,
and play a bigger role its 100% his prerogative.
Maybe he doesn't value a cup as much as he values getting more/different types of ice times. Maybe him and Eric are BFFs and always dreamt of playing together since they were kids, maybe Staal just simply was tired of
being asked to play the shutdown role specifically.
Who cares? His life, his choice. While I wish we still had Staal its not like the Pens didn't get some long term value for him.
he made his choice, it was his choice. Time to move on.
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Let's not forget that the dynasty didn't happen. Maybe Jordan didn't expect it to.
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Ya know, I'll tell ya...Chris Kreider is gonna get his lunch fed to him one of these days...ya know, say what you will about the goalie run-ins last year, he speared Andrei Markov in the fundament the other night...he was just tossed for a pretty ugly boarding incident on Jonas Brodin...
This is where we need a Milan Lucic type to go, "enough is enough" and feed him a catered tray of knuckle sandwiches...Eric Lindros taught Joe Thornton a lesson a lot of years ago and it straightened Joe right up, maybe too much...as he lost all of his power forward persona...but Kreider better be careful...Downie, Lucic, these guys won't be so forgiving of this...
This is where we need a Milan Lucic type to go, "enough is enough" and feed him a catered tray of knuckle sandwiches...Eric Lindros taught Joe Thornton a lesson a lot of years ago and it straightened Joe right up, maybe too much...as he lost all of his power forward persona...but Kreider better be careful...Downie, Lucic, these guys won't be so forgiving of this...
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Maybe he can throw a dirty hit on Adams, then Downie takes him to the knuckle sandwich buffet.mikey287 wrote:Ya know, I'll tell ya...Chris Kreider is gonna get his lunch fed to him one of these days...ya know, say what you will about the goalie run-ins last year, he speared Andrei Markov in the fundament the other night...he was just tossed for a pretty ugly boarding incident on Jonas Brodin...
This is where we need a Milan Lucic type to go, "enough is enough" and feed him a catered tray of knuckle sandwiches...Eric Lindros taught Joe Thornton a lesson a lot of years ago and it straightened Joe right up, maybe too much...as he lost all of his power forward persona...but Kreider better be careful...Downie, Lucic, these guys won't be so forgiving of this...
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For those that aren't watching here is the moving picture:
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Now John Moore has been sequestered for the contest for a head hit on Erik Haula...another 5 minute major PP for the Wild...they have zero PP goals tonight, and all season...
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I was just coming in to say how much I'm looking forward to the day Kreider gets beaten to a pulp after one of his stunts finally pushes someone over the edge. Dude's out of control out there, solid player but man is he sneaky dirty.
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Yeohmikey287 wrote:Now John Moore has been sequestered for the contest for a head hit on Erik Haula...another 5 minute major PP for the Wild...they have zero PP goals tonight, and all season...
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Wild about to blow a 3-0 lead?
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5 goals in the 3rd for the Rags.
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The Wild had given up only 6 in 6 games so far.
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From yesterday's Sharks-Ducks game (and Puck Daddy), the continuing misadventures of awful NHL referee Tim Peel
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lol Boudreau.
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Anyone else with DirecTV not getting any Center Ice games in HD?
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The way the flyers just won is so...typical...
I...hate...that...team!!!
I...hate...that...team!!!
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They did it against 17 skaters too...Kings only had 17 and 2 dressed due to cap restrictions...