Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
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Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
NHLN posed this question last night. Apparently the Leafs are interested. Now E. Staal has a no movement clause. Doesn't seem like this is a trade for the near future, but could it be something for the trade deadline? Where there's smoke there's fire. And if he does get moved to Toronto or wherever, would Jordan be a "throw-in"?
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
This isn't pens related? His brother once played for the Pens...
I wonder what they could get out of Toronto. It would be a lot.
I wonder what they could get out of Toronto. It would be a lot.
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
This reminds me that whoever he might be playing for, never to place a thread re Jagr in the Pens forum. Oh wait, maybe it is time for the admins to make a "Jagr Related Forum."Idoit40fans wrote:This isn't pens related? His brother once played for the Pens...
I wonder what they could get out of Toronto. It would be a lot.
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
Bruins beat Wings last night in a shootout.
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Poor jordon
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
Nah....he chose his fate in CAR.
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DudeMan2766 wrote:Bruins beat Wings last night in a shootout.
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I feel like this is where the NHL gets it wrong. They pay for prior value and prior deeds but don't get the world class player. Isn't Staal more akin to Lecavalier a couple years ago than he is to the Staal that won the cup?Idoit40fans wrote:This isn't pens related? His brother once played for the Pens...
I wonder what they could get out of Toronto. It would be a lot.
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E.Staal is not yet 30. His stats look like those of a player on the decline, but he's been stuck in the morass of Carolina. Obviously, a Tor wouldn't pay top price for him, but they'd still pay a hefty price. #1 centers don't hit the market very often. And it's not like we're talking about a 35 year old Joe Thornton.
As far as paying for prior value, that's the way it was pre lockout for sure. Things have changed now, as GM's who pay for prior value lose their jobs. #evilshero
As far as paying for prior value, that's the way it was pre lockout for sure. Things have changed now, as GM's who pay for prior value lose their jobs. #evilshero
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I think they'd be better off with Thornton...why not get a playmaking center in that group...I mean Bozak is fine, but he's like Jan Hrdina to Jagr not Francis to Jagr...Kadri is a puckhog with no clue...but all those shooters, Kessel, JVR, Lupul, even Phaneuf...get a distributor, no? They seem like they want "new Sundin" instead of what makes more sense...not that Thornton is the best add given his age, but still...
They're close, they have an all-world goalie, they have some really terrific puck movers on the back end, Gardiner, Rielly, Stuart Percy has looked great so far, they have a nice collection of wingers...but their center depth is just - what...
They're close, they have an all-world goalie, they have some really terrific puck movers on the back end, Gardiner, Rielly, Stuart Percy has looked great so far, they have a nice collection of wingers...but their center depth is just - what...
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
Do they have someone I don't know about?mikey287 wrote:they have an all-world goalie
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
Don't be coy with me, meow...Jonathan Bernier rules and you know it.
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I wouldn't call him world class...
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Yeah, coyness is nice and coyness can stop you from saying all the things in life you'd like to.
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The only thing world class about Bernier is his wardrobe. What a dresser.
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Re: Is Eric Staal on the trading block?
If Tor wanted a puck-distributor, they could have had Spezza. Maybe they should have gone that route... Thornton would fit right in there with Kessel. And that's not a compliment.
Staal though would give them the ability to control the center of the ice, which is precisely what they're lacking. JVR-Staal-Kessel?
I wonder also if EDM might make a play for Eric (and Jordan?). St Petersburgh isn't so far away from Edm in Canadian miles.
Hmm, mega blockbuster crap against the wall: Staal bros for Eberle and Draisatl?
Staal though would give them the ability to control the center of the ice, which is precisely what they're lacking. JVR-Staal-Kessel?
I wonder also if EDM might make a play for Eric (and Jordan?). St Petersburgh isn't so far away from Edm in Canadian miles.
Hmm, mega blockbuster crap against the wall: Staal bros for Eberle and Draisatl?
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That's assuming Ottawa would've wanted to trade him within the division, let alone the conference. I'm fairly certain they wanted to send him to the West.pcm wrote:If Tor wanted a puck-distributor, they could have had Spezza.
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How can you not like Jonathan Bernier? Don't tell me you like that clown job James Reimer...he's the mayor of ass town. Bernier has hybrid leanings, so that's why I like him. He tracks the puck and makes butterfly a save selection instead of just a go-to...and for the number aficionados, he had that save pct. on one of the poorer defensive groups in the circuit...he's literally the reason the Leafs were competitive last year. The reason why they missed the playoffs? Reimer played 12 of the last 14 or something...and then they lost.meow wrote:The only thing world class about Bernier is his wardrobe. What a dresser.
Share your thoughts, you should like him...watch some HNIC tape from last season, he's hot...
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Yeah, I can't imagine Ottawa wanted to send their non-Alfy franchise player down the street just for to come back and wreck up the place...that doesn't seem likely...MRandall25 wrote:That's assuming Ottawa would've wanted to trade him within the division, let alone the conference. I'm fairly certain they wanted to send him to the West.pcm wrote:If Tor wanted a puck-distributor, they could have had Spezza.
Not to mention, the Sens might have had a thing for Alex Chiasson...do the Leafs have a comparable player, I'd say no. Big, entry-level playmaking winger with NHL experience...I can't think of who that is on the Leafs...so I'm not sure they could have wrestled Spezza away...also, Spezza said - IIRC - he wouldn't go to a Canadian team...is that someone else? I think he wanted out of the spotlight...
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Reimer is governor of poopooville. Straight garbage. Bernier has more to give. Physically, he has all the tools. Great tracking, athletic, unbelievable reflexes and anticipation. But the soft goals, man. Way too many soft goals to be a top tier tender.mikey287 wrote:How can you not like Jonathan Bernier? Don't tell me you like that clown job James Reimer...he's the mayor of ass town. Bernier has hybrid leanings, so that's why I like him. He tracks the puck and makes butterfly a save selection instead of just a go-to...and for the number aficionados, he had that save pct. on one of the poorer defensive groups in the circuit...he's literally the reason the Leafs were competitive last year. The reason why they missed the playoffs? Reimer played 12 of the last 14 or something...and then they lost.meow wrote:The only thing world class about Bernier is his wardrobe. What a dresser.
Share your thoughts, you should like him...watch some HNIC tape from last season, he's hot...
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Being better than the alternative on your team doesnt make you all world. Although id love bernier on my team any time. Physically he leaves nothing to be desired.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to compare him to Reimer...that's an insult. He's all-world on his own accord, Reimer makes him look even better is all. But my feeling is on these different goalies: Brodeur, Bernier, Stalock, etc. that these goals aren't necessarily soft, they're just...different. I mean, Brodeur will give up more low goals, low, wide-side goals than most guys in the league...but no one is making a highlight reel of saves where guys go upstairs and it plunks right off his shoulder...a place where a butterfly goalie would have dropped down already, he's there, making a save...
So, I'll defer to you on the point, but I want to put that out there...Alex Stalock is going to take over for Antti Niemi at some point soon, and he's going to give up a long goal, low, wide-side and people are going to think he's bad...but it's the same logic that people think that every goalie in the 80's was horrid...they watch a highlight tape of Gretzky goals, they see zero saves and assume that goalies gave up goals on every shot...there's no highlight reels of easy save by Brodeur, a few of which, most goalies aren't there for...
So, I'll defer to you on the point, but I want to put that out there...Alex Stalock is going to take over for Antti Niemi at some point soon, and he's going to give up a long goal, low, wide-side and people are going to think he's bad...but it's the same logic that people think that every goalie in the 80's was horrid...they watch a highlight tape of Gretzky goals, they see zero saves and assume that goalies gave up goals on every shot...there's no highlight reels of easy save by Brodeur, a few of which, most goalies aren't there for...
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Funny you should mention Stalock. I was talking to some old teammate the other day about him. When you play against certain players, you can see when they have next level abilities. I have never been on the ice where the other goalie has battled as hard as Stalock did. He gave every ounce of energy he had to stop every shot. There won't be any books written about his technique, but boy, that dude can stop pucks.
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Bernier and Schneider are the 2 most over-hyped goalies in the league.
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Malkin and Sutter for Staal and Staal. Any takers?