Yep the bowl ban will make it so no one wants to join the team. I wouldn't be surprised if the current coach leaves.shafnutz05 wrote:I mean, I agree that a multi-year death penalty would have been destructive. But I'm having a hard time believing a one-season ban from football would be worse than the long-term nature of the sanctions that were handed down.
Rather than ripping off the Band-Aid and getting the intense pain right off the bat, they are slowly tearing it off and dragging it out over 5-10 years.
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So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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Well that is good at least.Malkamaniac wrote:immediately, and two people de committed alreadyAlexPKeaton wrote:Are they giving the players free transfers to leave?
But now that my favorite team is gone I can officially be consistent in hating all of the sport of football. I was already done with the NFL, and now I'm done with the NCAA.
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kenny the kangaroo interpreted it as 10 schollys a season over four seasons. so that would be 40. a lot more than the U got docked, but far from the death penalty. it remains to be seen if anyone is going to take advantage of the free transfer rule, but it would be surprising to see many defections based on the solidarity of the current year recruting class in the incoming freshman class. the argument of the allure of the U vs. psu is debatable but quite frankly that discussion is moot at this point.shafnutz05 wrote:Isn't this going to work out to like 70 scholarships over four seasons? And PSU doesn't exactly have the allure that the U has or had.KennyTheKangaroo wrote:A quick look at wikipedia (a reliable source) indicates that the U lost like 31 scholarships over the span of a few years in the mid 90's. they were back winning national championships by the turn of the century.
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Not sure if this is recent but it's in the contract that if he leaves now he owes PSU 4 million.thepittman wrote:Yep the bowl ban will make it so no one wants to join the team. I wouldn't be surprised if the current coach leaves.shafnutz05 wrote:I mean, I agree that a multi-year death penalty would have been destructive. But I'm having a hard time believing a one-season ban from football would be worse than the long-term nature of the sanctions that were handed down.
Rather than ripping off the Band-Aid and getting the intense pain right off the bat, they are slowly tearing it off and dragging it out over 5-10 years.
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Harsh sanctions. Wow.
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a very surprising penalty. i guess since joepa isnt around to get punished, they might as well punish his legacy?Mr. Colby wrote:So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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Not sure, doesn't make sense. Then again, I don't think it really matters either, more of a symbolic gesture with no symbolism.Mr. Colby wrote:So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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To rub Paterno's face in his own poopy mess. I really think that's the only reason for it. Paterno's legacy was already destroyed, but he was still the all-time winningest coach (IMO, deservedly). Taking away that mark leaves him with absolutely nothing.Mr. Colby wrote:So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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Well, it takes him off the top of the "most wins" list. Didn't really think of that.KennyTheKangaroo wrote:a very surprising penalty. i guess since joepa isnt around to get punished, they might as well punish his legacy?Mr. Colby wrote:So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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Hindsight? Please. Many here, including myself said Penn State wouldn't risk further negative impacts of dragging out an appeal.shafnutz05 wrote:lolololol I made it perfectly clear that the one big caveat was "unless Penn State signs off on the punishment". But congratulations, your hindsight is 20/20.King Sid the Great 87 wrote:So when does Penn state sue and "win easily"?
You've been wrong on every account here. Congratulations!
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That's the only reason they did it.pfim wrote:Well, it takes him off the top of the "most wins" list. Didn't really think of that.
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What in the hell are you talking about? I made it perfectly clear that because Penn State was in penitent mode, there was a good chance Erickson would roll over and take what was coming. So what are you talking about with me being "wrong" here?King Sid the Great 87 wrote:Hindsight? Please. Many here, including myself said Penn State wouldn't risk further negative impacts of dragging out an appeal.
You've been wrong on every account here. Congratulations!
You should go work for ESPN's NCAA desk, because you are obviously far ahead of the curve. Do you have a Twitter feed I could follow?
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Every ESPN update on my phone gets more depressing
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y'all football bout to suckviva la ben wrote:Penn State sanctions:
10 Scholarships lost
4 Bowl ban
60 million dollar fine
All wins from 1998 onward are vHacated
5 years of probation
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Dropped him from 409 wins to 298.pfim wrote:Well, it takes him off the top of the "most wins" list. Didn't really think of that.KennyTheKangaroo wrote:a very surprising penalty. i guess since joepa isnt around to get punished, they might as well punish his legacy?Mr. Colby wrote:So why would they lose all those wins? It's not like they cheated football games
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Yeah, these sanctions are going to be a major hurdle for recruiting fo sho.
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So Miami gets a year long investigation by the NCAA for hookers and booster money but PSU gets 10 days with no due process. Nice.
Well at least the games between Pitt will be more competitive now....;)
Well at least the games between Pitt will be more competitive now....;)
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I just read somewhere that O'Brien doesn't have an out clause. No way this can be true.....right?
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The attitude that Penn State itself is the victim makes me sick to my stomach.
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Wow if true.shafnutz05 wrote:I just read somewhere that O'Brien doesn't have an out clause. No way this can be true.....right?
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No due process? There was a 9 month investigation was there not? I mean you can only bury your head in the sand so much. The fact that some PSU fans(not you necessarily) are playing the victim card now makes me sick.DontToewsMeBro wrote:So Miami gets a year long investigation by the NCAA for hookers and booster money but PSU gets 10 days with no due process. Nice.
Well at least the games between Pitt will be more competitive now....
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Pretty sure that's true.shafnutz05 wrote:I just read somewhere that O'Brien doesn't have an out clause. No way this can be true.....right?
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you really think the NCAA has been debating this for only 10 days?DontToewsMeBro wrote:So Miami gets a year long investigation by the NCAA for hookers and booster money but PSU gets 10 days with no due process. Nice.
Well at least the games between Pitt will be more competitive now....
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viva la ben wrote:The attitude that Penn State itself is the victim makes me sick to my stomach.