Jerry Sandusky and Related Trials

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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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Penn State sanctions:
10 Scholarships lost
4 Bowl ban
60 million dollar fine
All wins from 1998 onward are vHacated
5 years of probation
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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shafnutz05 wrote:
This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
Not sure I agree there. They will still field a team, have a coach, belong to a conference.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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pfim wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:
This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
Not sure I agree there. They will still field a team, have a coach, belong to a conference.
Agree
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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pfim wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:
This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
Not sure I agree there. They will still field a team, have a coach, belong to a conference.
Eh, they are going to be completely irrelevant for a decade or more.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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It's not as bad as a multi-year death penalty, but most certainly worse than a one-year football ban.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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viva la ben wrote:Penn State sanctions:
10 Scholarships lost
4 Bowl ban
National television
60 million dollar fine
All wins from 1998 onward are vacated
5 years of probation
yikes
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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columbia wrote:Vacating all of those wins...wow, would not have expected that.
That's really the only thing that I don't really get here. I thought that vacating wins was primarily involved when a distinct competitive advantage was allowed.

I think that was more of an "F U" to Paterno, and I doubt they would have done it had he not been the all-time wins leader.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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going to be a busy day in other schools football offices, get those permissions to contacts ready
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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I edited my post, nothing about national television, but with these sanctions don't expect the networks to pick them up anytime soon.
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LOL at punishing those that have nothing to do with what happened.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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shafnutz05 wrote:
pfim wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:
This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
Not sure I agree there. They will still field a team, have a coach, belong to a conference.
Eh, they are going to be completely irrelevant for a decade or more.
And if they received the death penalty and were expelled from the Big 10? they'd likely never get back there.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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Is it a guarantee they would have been expelled from the Big 10 had they received the death penalty? I'm honestly asking, I don't know.
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thepittman wrote:LOL at punishing those that have nothing to do with what happened.
This is what I see on my facebook wall, today PSU alums and fans "are now the
Victims."
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I heard on the radio that the B10 may add on their own sanctions later today.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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shafnutz05 wrote:$60 million fine

Banned from bowls for four years

Scholarships reduced from 25 to 15 for four years

All wins vacated from 1998-2011.

5 years probation.

Individual sanctions.

This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
So when does Penn state sue and "win easily"?
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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King Sid the Great 87 wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:$60 million fine

Banned from bowls for four years

Scholarships reduced from 25 to 15 for four years

All wins vacated from 1998-2011.

5 years probation.

Individual sanctions.

This is FAR worse than the death penalty.
So when does Penn state sue and "win easily"?
They don't. The university signed off on the punishment.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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I mean, I agree that a multi-year death penalty would have been destructive. But I'm having a hard time believing a one-season ban from football would be worse than the long-term nature of the sanctions that were handed down.

Rather than ripping off the Band-Aid and getting the intense pain right off the bat, they are slowly tearing it off and dragging it out over 5-10 years.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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A quick look at wikipedia (a reliable source) indicates that the U lost like 31 scholarships over the span of a few years in the mid 90's. they were back winning national championships by the turn of the century.
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King Sid the Great 87 wrote:So when does Penn state sue and "win easily"?
lolololol I made it perfectly clear that the one big caveat was "unless Penn State signs off on the punishment". But congratulations, your hindsight is 20/20.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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holy ****.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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Are they giving the players free transfers to leave?
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AlexPKeaton wrote:Are they giving the players free transfers to leave?
immediately, and two people de committed already
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KennyTheKangaroo wrote:A quick look at wikipedia (a reliable source) indicates that the U lost like 31 scholarships over the span of a few years in the mid 90's. they were back winning national championships by the turn of the century.
Isn't this going to work out to like 70 scholarships over four seasons? And PSU doesn't exactly have the allure that the U has or had.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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viva la ben wrote:I heard on the radio that the B10 may add on their own sanctions later today.
This is likely where the TV/TV Revenue penalties are levied. No inside info, just my opinion.
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Re: Jerry Sandusky Trial

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I know I asked this earlier, but can someone explain to me again the basis for vacating the wins? I thought it was only to address a competitive advantage?

I have no issue with the rest of the penalties if Penn State signed off on them. But I am having a difficult time understanding the point of vacating the wins other than "Haha, suck it Paterno!!".