penny lane wrote:
not participating in the Jagr festivities this summer.
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penny lane wrote:
not participating in the Jagr festivities this summer.
Could have made twice as much in Russia than what the Flyers gave him this season. Just mind boogling how ignorant some people are with regards to the Jagr situation.llipgh2 wrote:He's a mercenary. He should just come right out and say "I'm in it for the money." I'd have more respect for him if he did.Sarcastic wrote:He's a headcase.Malkamaniac wrote:Sounds like same old Jagr to me.DarrenDreger
Jaromir Jagr enjoyed Phildadelphia, but plans on testing free agency. Also plans to change training to shed some lbs and get faster.
Then why didn't he sign with the pens?Lesky wrote:Could have made twice as much in Russia than what the Flyers gave him this season. Just mind boogling how ignorant some people are with regards to the Jagr situation.llipgh2 wrote:He's a mercenary. He should just come right out and say "I'm in it for the money." I'd have more respect for him if he did.Sarcastic wrote:He's a headcase.Malkamaniac wrote:Sounds like same old Jagr to me.DarrenDreger
Jaromir Jagr enjoyed Phildadelphia, but plans on testing free agency. Also plans to change training to shed some lbs and get faster.
I agree. I don't think money has anything to do with it, he's just a head case.Lesky wrote:Could have made twice as much in Russia than what the Flyers gave him this season. Just mind boogling how ignorant some people are with regards to the Jagr situation.llipgh2 wrote:He's a mercenary. He should just come right out and say "I'm in it for the money." I'd have more respect for him if he did.Sarcastic wrote:He's a headcase.Malkamaniac wrote:Sounds like same old Jagr to me.DarrenDreger
Jaromir Jagr enjoyed Phildadelphia, but plans on testing free agency. Also plans to change training to shed some lbs and get faster.
Could have made twice as much in Russia than what the Flyers gave him this season. Just mind boogling how ignorant some people are with regards to the Jagr situation.
Jagr wanted to get top line ice time and be on the first PP. That was his motivation for signing with the Flyers. And the only thing he has spoken about with regards to re-signing with the Flyers or not. Jagr wants to wait and see if the Flyers sign aquire Rick Nash for example - he wants to be sure to get a PP role and much ice time.I agree. I don't think money has anything to do with it, he's just a head case.
newarenanow wrote:Honestly, I can't wait for Jagr to retire so we can retire his number and make admends with him.
I know.newarenanow wrote:I'm being serious!
Jagr and Lemieux are my boyhood idols and made me start play hockey and root for the Penguins. I would defend them to deathSarcastic wrote:If I may ask, Lesky. Why are you so obsessed with Jagr?
http://www.freep.com/article/20120620/S ... romir-jagr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Jaromir Jagr interested the Red Wings last season, and will likely interest them again this year. They offered him $2.5 million last year before he signed for $3.3 million with the Flyers. The Wings want to add a top 6 forward, and if they can’t land Zach Parise, Jagr could be part of their backup plan. The Red Wings would like to re-sign Jiri Hudler, but he may test free agency.
Because he choose to play a waiting game and sign elsewhere? A goddamn joke people see that as burning bridges - only Pens fan has this view of things.Tico Rick wrote:Hard to believe that Jagr hasn't burned his bridges with both DET and PGH.
I would think it's burning bridges when you say you will come back to the NHL for only three teams. Each of those teams makes an offer, and you use their offer to get a bigger contract from another team. Why would the Wings, Pens, or Habs waste their time on him this year after that happened?Lesky wrote:Because he choose to play a waiting game and sign elsewhere? A goddamn joke people see that as burning bridges - only Pens fan has this view of things.Tico Rick wrote:Hard to believe that Jagr hasn't burned his bridges with both DET and PGH.
Surely there must be ALOT of burned bridges around the like judging by these standards.
Nailed it. Im not a wings fan obviously, but I have so much respect for Ken Holland and that organization. You'd be foolish to think that the way that Jagr and Svoboda handled that situation last year won't be in the back of Holland's mind.dman66 wrote:I would think it's burning bridges when you say you will come back to the NHL for only three teams. Each of those teams makes an offer, and you use their offer to get a bigger contract from another team. Why would the Wings, Pens, or Habs waste their time on him this year after that happened?Lesky wrote:Because he choose to play a waiting game and sign elsewhere? A goddamn joke people see that as burning bridges - only Pens fan has this view of things.Tico Rick wrote:Hard to believe that Jagr hasn't burned his bridges with both DET and PGH.
Surely there must be ALOT of burned bridges around the like judging by these standards.
Lol at the person who thinks you nailed it.dman66 wrote:I would think it's burning bridges when you say you will come back to the NHL for only three teams. Each of those teams makes an offer, and you use their offer to get a bigger contract from another team. Why would the Wings, Pens, or Habs waste their time on him this year after that happened?Lesky wrote:Because he choose to play a waiting game and sign elsewhere? A goddamn joke people see that as burning bridges - only Pens fan has this view of things.Tico Rick wrote:Hard to believe that Jagr hasn't burned his bridges with both DET and PGH.
Surely there must be ALOT of burned bridges around the like judging by these standards.
What? Does Jagr or any other free agent have any obligation to sign with Detroit or Pittsburgh? Does any free agent have to say no to Detroit and Pittsburgh before signing with the Flyers?Pensfan2010 wrote:Nailed it. Im not a wings fan obviously, but I have so much respect for Ken Holland and that organization. You'd be foolish to think that the way that Jagr and Svoboda handled that situation last year won't be in the back of Holland's mind.dman66 wrote:I would think it's burning bridges when you say you will come back to the NHL for only three teams. Each of those teams makes an offer, and you use their offer to get a bigger contract from another team. Why would the Wings, Pens, or Habs waste their time on him this year after that happened?Lesky wrote:Because he choose to play a waiting game and sign elsewhere? A goddamn joke people see that as burning bridges - only Pens fan has this view of things.Tico Rick wrote:Hard to believe that Jagr hasn't burned his bridges with both DET and PGH.
Surely there must be ALOT of burned bridges around the like judging by these standards.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6725916" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;It was believed Pittsburgh, Detroit and Montreal were the three teams the five-time scoring champ was considering in a return to the NHL after playing the last three years in the Kontinental Hockey League.
Yes, yes. Poor Jaromir. He's the only person in the history of the Penguins or the NHL that has ever been held accountable for the words of his agent or himself. Give me a break.To me it still seems there is one standard for Jaromir Jagr
So if it was believed from a media standpoint based on hearsay and something Jagr said to a paper 30 days prior to free agency - that means Jagr burns bridges if he does not sign with the 3 teams mentioned in the media as "likely destinations"? Are you really serious about thinking an NHL organization would feel BURNED by a player who mentions several clubs he would be interested to play for and then signs with a different club in the end? I think GMs are not as easily hurt as Penguins fans thankfully.dman66 wrote:Lesky, just a quick Google search produced this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6725916" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;It was believed Pittsburgh, Detroit and Montreal were the three teams the five-time scoring champ was considering in a return to the NHL after playing the last three years in the Kontinental Hockey League.
As well as this link which speculates on potential teams he wants to play for:
http://www.hockeyworldblog.com/2011/06/ ... n-detroit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As well as this article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6714217" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why would Montreal, Pittsburgh, and Detroit be waiting on a decision by Jagr if there wasn't mutual interest on both sides?
I could do more, but don't feel like it. You have made your feelings very clear throughout these 359 pages. If Jagr or his agent would have said from the beginning that he wanted to come back to the NHL, but didn't know where he would sign or that they would just field offers, then most Pens fans would have still been upset he signed with a rival, but I wouldn't expect the type of vitriol against him that we saw this season.
Yes, yes. Poor Jaromir. He's the only person in the history of the Penguins or the NHL that has ever been held accountable for the words of his agent or himself. Give me a break.To me it still seems there is one standard for Jaromir Jagr
None of this is very specific. I wonder if there's a direct quote with him saying "I'll only sign with Pens, Wings...". Very much doubt it. The media buzz narrowing down the rumours to a few teams doesn't give us any kind of input on whether or not Jagr "burned bridges" by breaking promises to anyone when choosing team. Then there's the agent factor as well, of course.dman66 wrote:Lesky, just a quick Google search produced this:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6725916" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;It was believed Pittsburgh, Detroit and Montreal were the three teams the five-time scoring champ was considering in a return to the NHL after playing the last three years in the Kontinental Hockey League.
As well as this link which speculates on potential teams he wants to play for:
http://www.hockeyworldblog.com/2011/06/ ... n-detroit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As well as this article:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6714217" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why would Montreal, Pittsburgh, and Detroit be waiting on a decision by Jagr if there wasn't mutual interest on both sides?
I could do more, but don't feel like it. You have made your feelings very clear throughout these 359 pages. If Jagr or his agent would have said from the beginning that he wanted to come back to the NHL, but didn't know where he would sign or that they would just field offers, then most Pens fans would have still been upset he signed with a rival, but I wouldn't expect the type of vitriol against him that we saw this season.
Yes, yes. Poor Jaromir. He's the only person in the history of the Penguins or the NHL that has ever been held accountable for the words of his agent or himself. Give me a break.To me it still seems there is one standard for Jaromir Jagr