was...past tense...slappybrown wrote:Oh, you mean like right now?Kicksave wrote:being a baddie with Malka was full of
Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 20572
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:53 am
- Location: Feeling like I want to rage...right now.
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I'm joining the redwill vote
It won't be changing. I learned another don't do on day 1 mistake.
fire redwill
It won't be changing. I learned another don't do on day 1 mistake.
fire redwill
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
fire redwill
But I really don't understand why people are saying we don't have anythign to go on...because we do...we already found out the identity of one of the bad guys...even though its early, what other relevant information is there?
But I really don't understand why people are saying we don't have anythign to go on...because we do...we already found out the identity of one of the bad guys...even though its early, what other relevant information is there?
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Troy Loney wrote:fire redwill
But I really don't understand why people are saying we don't have anythign to go on...because we do...we already found out the identity of one of the bad guys...even though its early, what other relevant information is there?
well to be honest, the only thing that's really relevant is that THG was a baddie and he's dead. Other than that. Really what do we have?
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Some people voted for him, some didn't...some tried to defend him a little, most didn't...some tried to deflect the vote and throw out other names....you know...why am i explaining this?Malkamaniac wrote:Troy Loney wrote:fire redwill
But I really don't understand why people are saying we don't have anythign to go on...because we do...we already found out the identity of one of the bad guys...even though its early, what other relevant information is there?
well to be honest, the only thing that's really relevant is that THG was a baddie and he's dead. Other than that. Really what do we have?
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 15747
- Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:36 pm
- Location: Charlotte, NC
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I'm in the middle of catching up, but thought I'd post this. If there are two bad groups it's very unlikely they can recruit. That would be another big advantage for one of them over the other family or the village. Another possibility is that they attempted to kill someone who can't be killed yet, like the ISK role in an earlier game.
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 20572
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:53 am
- Location: Feeling like I want to rage...right now.
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
We hit thg yesterday with a rookie mistake. I don't think we have too much to go on as of right now.
The whole redwill/dagny thing screams of a villager pissy match to me, right now. I'm kind of iffy on losing a good thinking player so early to the bandwagon.
I absolutely hate this theory early on in the game, but look at the people who voted for thehockeyguru.
thehockeyguru - 13 (mac5155, Kicksave, dagny, MWB, sdm5055, slappybrown, Azkar, zarovich, PFIDC, npv708, Dan H, redwill, tfrizz)
Chacnes are some of the other baddies jumped towards the middle/end of the vote to "throw of suspicion" for later in the game but like I said, that's a horrible way to go about it right now.
The whole redwill/dagny thing screams of a villager pissy match to me, right now. I'm kind of iffy on losing a good thinking player so early to the bandwagon.
I absolutely hate this theory early on in the game, but look at the people who voted for thehockeyguru.
thehockeyguru - 13 (mac5155, Kicksave, dagny, MWB, sdm5055, slappybrown, Azkar, zarovich, PFIDC, npv708, Dan H, redwill, tfrizz)
Chacnes are some of the other baddies jumped towards the middle/end of the vote to "throw of suspicion" for later in the game but like I said, that's a horrible way to go about it right now.
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 20572
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:53 am
- Location: Feeling like I want to rage...right now.
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Actually, the more I think about it, who felt bad for thg yesterday and "didn't want to vote for him" because of that? If you're looking for a tell - that might be it.
Shoot this out of a cannon.
Shoot this out of a cannon.
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Troy Loney wrote:Some people voted for him, some didn't...some tried to defend him a little, most didn't...some tried to deflect the vote and throw out other names....you know...why am i explaining this?Malkamaniac wrote:Troy Loney wrote:fire redwill
But I really don't understand why people are saying we don't have anythign to go on...because we do...we already found out the identity of one of the bad guys...even though its early, what other relevant information is there?
well to be honest, the only thing that's really relevant is that THG was a baddie and he's dead. Other than that. Really what do we have?
Because your explanation is basically the same thing we go through every game. We get an RP.
We know:
Baddies did vote
regulars did vote
We also know:
People who had no idea they were deflecting a baddie...still deflected
people voted randomly
people voted for revenge.
really, teall me whats different about this time than any other time? I'm not really trying to be defensive or anything.
-
- NHL First Liner
- Posts: 60559
- Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:10 pm
- Location: Amish Country
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 15747
- Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:36 pm
- Location: Charlotte, NC
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I tend to agree with people who are suspicious of ones who threw thg's name out early. I believe it was brought out in the sign up thread that if he was a bad guy his own team would vote him out, or something like that. It's smart because everyone knows he'll go early anyway.
Dagny is playing completely different from earlier games. She always wants to wait to vote and wants discussion. Yet she has thrown out early votes both days. It's very possible that she knew thg was bad because of a tell and was so certain that she thought it best to vote. However, she admits to not being certain of redwill and voted for him. In past games she wouldn't have done that, even with going to work. She always says she hopes to catch up and vote when she returns. I just find it all a little odd. Maybe there's nothing to it though.
Dagny is playing completely different from earlier games. She always wants to wait to vote and wants discussion. Yet she has thrown out early votes both days. It's very possible that she knew thg was bad because of a tell and was so certain that she thought it best to vote. However, she admits to not being certain of redwill and voted for him. In past games she wouldn't have done that, even with going to work. She always says she hopes to catch up and vote when she returns. I just find it all a little odd. Maybe there's nothing to it though.
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
But several people did know what THG, and i guarantee that they didn't sit idly by while their leader for axed on the first day...you know well that they did one of two things, they either tried to steer the village on to another bandwagon or they jumped on the bandwagon to make themselves look good....do you really think that they just sat there and did nothing?We also know:
People who had no idea they were deflecting a baddie...still deflected
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 15747
- Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:36 pm
- Location: Charlotte, NC
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I'd have to believe they jumped on the bandwagon. There's no reason to try to deflect attention from someone who is so certain to be killed early on.Troy Loney wrote:you know well that they did one of two things, they either tried to steer the village on to another bandwagon or they jumped on the bandwagon to make themselves look good....do you really think that they just sat there and did nothing?
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Troy Loney wrote:But several people did know what THG, and i guarantee that they didn't sit idly by while their leader for axed on the first day...you know well that they did one of two things, they either tried to steer the village on to another bandwagon or they jumped on the bandwagon to make themselves look good....do you really think that they just sat there and did nothing?We also know:
People who had no idea they were deflecting a baddie...still deflected
No I'm saying that what you're suggesting is what is always done regarding a baddie being outed.
Some go one way, some go the other.
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Redwill - 9 (dagny, slappy, azkar, zaro, trfizz, shaf, nan, malk, troy)
MWB - 1 (sdm)
Malks - 1 (jay)
13 to fire[/quote]
MWB - 1 (sdm)
Malks - 1 (jay)
13 to fire[/quote]
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Ok...so does that not alteast give us a way to go? Wouldn't you rather limit the potential suspect pool to 5 or 6 people....or would you rather just pick a random name out of the hat?Malkamaniac wrote:Troy Loney wrote:But several people did know what THG, and i guarantee that they didn't sit idly by while their leader for axed on the first day...you know well that they did one of two things, they either tried to steer the village on to another bandwagon or they jumped on the bandwagon to make themselves look good....do you really think that they just sat there and did nothing?We also know:
People who had no idea they were deflecting a baddie...still deflected
No I'm saying that what you're suggesting is what is always done regarding a baddie being outed.
Some go one way, some go the other.
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 23173
- Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:11 pm
- Location: Washington, DC
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
fire redwill
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Redwill - 10 (dagny, slappy, azkar, zaro, trfizz, shaf, nan, malk, troy, npv)
MWB - 1 (sdm)
Malks - 1 (jay)
13 to fire
MWB - 1 (sdm)
Malks - 1 (jay)
13 to fire
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I'm not even saying I disagree with you. I'm just saying, your taking this as information that's new solely to this game. It happens all the time, every game.Ok...so does that not alteast give us a way to go? Wouldn't you rather limit the potential suspect pool to 5 or 6 people....or would you rather just pick a random name out of the hat?
I'm all for getting another person with valid evidence, but really what evidence do you have aside from, this person voted for so and so, that makes him/her a target after one day. How credible is that evidence really?
I surely understand that someone needs to die, and that the village as a whole needs a win. Which is why I'm willing to let Dagny get this day's vote from me. Dagny called out THG and was correct, then promptly called out Redwill. The only real evidence I have is that Dagny got the correct call right off the bat, which is why the words that come from Dagny mean more to me at this moment.
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I personally don't deal well with people that vote blindly, I'd rather have every vote explained LOGICALLY.
Which is what I am directing towards jaysmiter:
He calls me a baddie or implies it because I switched vote.
yet he didn't vote at all making me think, oh hey, he could be suspicious because of his comments referring to the fact that he did not vote for thg last phase
"Oh, and before anyone goes back to day 1 and sees that not only did I abstain from voting for THG (or anyone for that matter) and that I questioned the vote...I did. It's true."
I'm just saying, if he can look at the fact that I switched votes for THG that was a baddie, then why can't I say other wise about the fact that he abstained from voting for THG AND questioned the THG vote? How is that not suspicious?
Which is what I am directing towards jaysmiter:
He calls me a baddie or implies it because I switched vote.
yet he didn't vote at all making me think, oh hey, he could be suspicious because of his comments referring to the fact that he did not vote for thg last phase
"Oh, and before anyone goes back to day 1 and sees that not only did I abstain from voting for THG (or anyone for that matter) and that I questioned the vote...I did. It's true."
I'm just saying, if he can look at the fact that I switched votes for THG that was a baddie, then why can't I say other wise about the fact that he abstained from voting for THG AND questioned the THG vote? How is that not suspicious?
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
We don't often randomly bandwagon a baddie on the first day....and we alsmost always exonerate people if they call out a baddie. THG's name was brought up immediately and he was bad...i believe there are two potential distinct respones or actions from the baddies...either they used his enevitalbe firing to exonerate themselves or they were reluctant to vote off one of there own so early and tried to deflect the bandwagon...each of those are viable alternatives for us to proceed...ie kill the people who were reluctant or kill the people who bandwagoned him.Malkamaniac wrote:I'm not even saying I disagree with you. I'm just saying, your taking this as information that's new solely to this game. It happens all the time, every game.Ok...so does that not alteast give us a way to go? Wouldn't you rather limit the potential suspect pool to 5 or 6 people....or would you rather just pick a random name out of the hat?
I'm all for getting another person with valid evidence, but really what evidence do you have aside from, this person voted for so and so, that makes him/her a target after one day. How credible is that evidence really?
I surely understand that someone needs to die, and that the village as a whole needs a win. Which is why I'm willing to let Dagny get this day's vote from me. Dagny called out THG and was correct, then promptly called out Redwill. The only real evidence I have is that Dagny got the correct call right off the bat, which is why the words that come from Dagny mean more to me at this moment.
I have no idea why your trying so hard to downplay what we have to go off of thus far...
-
- AHL All-Star
- Posts: 7342
- Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:04 pm
- Location: Wichita, KS
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
Well, I see votes are piling higher and deeper for me. I said my peace here:
I invite you to look at that and see what the problem is. Just one other note: dagny said she was not as strong on me as on thg last round. I wish she was around to respond to what I said above.
The sad thing for me is that I cannot really give any ideas or vote, 'cause I'll be accused of deflecting. So it goes.
redwill wrote:I presume the votes for me are generally (or blindly) following dagny's suspicion.
They're legitimate, I suppose. I initially hesitated to go with thg. This, as I stated, was because I did not want to play revenge-style. I have suffered Juice's revenge and wasn't too pleased about it.
Then dagny presented herself as a legitimate target. Does anyone disagree with that?
I switched at the last minute to thg to help get a write-up going before this morning.
I think that's all perfectly reasonable.
I'm just a regular person. Do what you will. I will try to give some thoughts about where to go next.
I invite you to look at that and see what the problem is. Just one other note: dagny said she was not as strong on me as on thg last round. I wish she was around to respond to what I said above.
The sad thing for me is that I cannot really give any ideas or vote, 'cause I'll be accused of deflecting. So it goes.
-
- NHL Fourth Liner
- Posts: 20572
- Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:53 am
- Location: Feeling like I want to rage...right now.
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
this bandwagon left the station. let's do it.
fire redwill
fire redwill
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 34732
- Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:33 pm
- Location: Who is Sims?
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
I'm not downplaying anything, I'm just stating, with the luck of the draw, it was an added bonus that we nabbed a boss. Like I've said previously, I'm not disagreeing with you.Troy Loney wrote:We don't often randomly bandwagon a baddie on the first day....and we alsmost always exonerate people if they call out a baddie. THG's name was brought up immediately and he was bad...i believe there are two potential distinct respones or actions from the baddies...either they used his enevitalbe firing to exonerate themselves or they were reluctant to vote off one of there own so early and tried to deflect the bandwagon...each of those are viable alternatives for us to proceed...ie kill the people who were reluctant or kill the people who bandwagoned him.Malkamaniac wrote:I'm not even saying I disagree with you. I'm just saying, your taking this as information that's new solely to this game. It happens all the time, every game.Ok...so does that not alteast give us a way to go? Wouldn't you rather limit the potential suspect pool to 5 or 6 people....or would you rather just pick a random name out of the hat?
I'm all for getting another person with valid evidence, but really what evidence do you have aside from, this person voted for so and so, that makes him/her a target after one day. How credible is that evidence really?
I surely understand that someone needs to die, and that the village as a whole needs a win. Which is why I'm willing to let Dagny get this day's vote from me. Dagny called out THG and was correct, then promptly called out Redwill. The only real evidence I have is that Dagny got the correct call right off the bat, which is why the words that come from Dagny mean more to me at this moment.
I have no idea why your trying so hard to downplay what we have to go off of thus far...
-
- NHL Third Liner
- Posts: 28922
- Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 am
- Location: Pittsburgh
Re: Hollywood Wars: Game Thread
But your consistent claims of having nothing to go on during day one and two would fundamentally contradict what your saying.Malkamaniac wrote:I personally don't deal well with people that vote blindly, I'd rather have every vote explained LOGICALLY.
hire redwill
fire malkamaniac
your bouncing all over the place...