mac5155 wrote:can someone outline why troy and beerman are suspicious (other than BM being inactive?) because i've read through and i'm missing it i think..
Pavel Bure thought my DanH vote in round one was suspicious...then we fought about that...
Now Senka didn't like my pulling the vote off of Pavel last nigth and leaving it blank..he thinks im acting impartial and trying to walk the fine line.
mac5155 wrote:can someone outline why troy and beerman are suspicious (other than BM being inactive?) because i've read through and i'm missing it i think..
Pavel Bure thought my DanH vote in round one was suspicious...then we fought about that...
Now Senka didn't like my pulling the vote off of Pavel last nigth and leaving it blank..he thinks im acting impartial and trying to walk the fine line.
seems foolish IMO for you to do that (which is why i'm not sold a vote for you would help us)
To save myself...which is completely reasonable to me because even if cupkeeper is just a villager, thats just as bad as letting myself go down like that when i'm just villager.
***i think the lack of voting could be indicative to the fact there we're not on to anything here...ie it only takes two votes for a majority right now...slugs have no reason to even really vote (voting is a strong piece of evidence against someone later in the game)...i'm wondering if they are among the handful that ahve been on here all day talkign about this, or one of the many not around at all.
I agree with your second premise, hence why I"m trying to get something going.
If it just sits here with three votes and goes into the next day, a villager may be strung up, and because of no activity by anyone, the slugs can just sit back blend in with the village.
Like you said, voting patterns are pretty big later in the game. If you are a villager, and unsure, don't hold off your vote. Don't give the slugs an opportunity to sit back and hide with the rest of the village.
Juice wrote:so what do we do if pavel bure doesn't speak up about who he researched?
Vote for someone. Anyone but him.
Try to pull out another slug.
If he isn't the gardener, the real one is out there working away. And we know he is a slug who we can knock off once the real gardener is gone, or has spoken.
If he is, it gives him another night and puts the ball in the slugs court whether to whack him or not.
Juice wrote:so what do we do if pavel bure doesn't speak up about who he researched?
Juice your the one person that keeps bringing up Pavel....seriously, why is it important for him to be salted? It just seems like numerous times your statements have come off as "Oh why not him, just because lived he could still be a slug"
It's coming off as overly pushy on Bure. If he doesn't speak, then we see if he lives another night. If he does then great, I'll seriously think about the salt vote then next time. Either way though, I can see the slugs leaving him alone because people are going to want him salted anyways, even if he is the gardener, killing two birds with one stone for the slugs. It seriously comes off as the most slug thing at the moment.
Juice wrote:so what do we do if pavel bure doesn't speak up about who he researched?
Juice your the one person that keeps bringing up Pavel....seriously, why is it important for him to be salted? It just seems like numerous times your statements have come off as "Oh why not him, just because lived he could still be a slug"
It's coming off as overly pushy on Bure. If he doesn't speak, then we see if he lives another night. If he does then great, I'll seriously think about the salt vote then next time. Either way though, I can see the slugs leaving him alone because people are going to want him salted anyways, even if he is the gardener, killing two birds with one stone for the slugs. It seriously comes off as the most slug thing at the moment.
Yeah, I don't know what the big deal is with the urgency to get Pavel out.
If he is the gardener, leave the ball in the slugs court whether to eat him or not.
If he isn't, we then know he is a slug. We will just salt him when the real gardener is dead or speaks.
I'd rather put the effort into getting one of the other three slugs.
I will definitely be voting. I'm leaning towards troy or cupkeeper. Did Troy give a reason for unsalting pavel and then not salting anyone else last night? Cup keeper because he's not said much of anything.
mac5155 wrote:and i'd be interested to see if juice is also a slug along with pavel if he is.
I'm going to hold off on that one for right now.
If Pavel was caught, I don't know why another slug would be pushing so hard to get him and put himself into the spotlight.
It could happen. But I just would think it would be crazy to have a slug call attention to themselves this early in the game. But then again, that could be their plan. Who knows?
MWB wrote:I will definitely be voting. I'm leaning towards troy or cupkeeper. Did Troy give a reason for unsalting pavel and then not salting anyone else last night? Cup keeper because he's not said much of anything.
Because i was talking arguing with pavel while i was in class last night...then after i got back home i checked again...saw that the vote was between pavel & danh...i didn't want pavel to get salted...i didnt want him to get salted last night...and that was before he came out as the gardener (so it was just to take back my reactionary vote, because i think we both concluded that we were clean last night)
So i just signed on to unsalt pavel, and then went to sleep.
MWB wrote:I will definitely be voting. I'm leaning towards troy or cupkeeper. Did Troy give a reason for unsalting pavel and then not salting anyone else last night? Cup keeper because he's not said much of anything.
Because i was talking arguing with pavel while i was in class last night...then after i got back home i checked again...saw that the vote was between pavel & danh...i didn't want pavel to get salted...i didnt want him to get salted last night...and that was before he came out as the gardener (so it was just to take back my reactionary vote, because i think we both concluded that we were clean last night)
So i just signed on to unsalt pavel, and then went to sleep.
Ok, makes sense, at least for now. I think going with a very inactive player is the way to go. salt cup keeper
only reason i find it helpful to salt bure if he doesnt come out and help us, is avoiding discovering a real seer while looking elsewhere. if we salted him, we'd essentially buy the real seer another night without exposing him. thats the only logic i could find in salting him. but then again, time is ticking.
in ref to beerman hes my second choice although i still think troy > beerman. cupkeeper sure, but i still have 2-3 people ahead of him. I always feel like i can pinpoint what is going on, and then something stupid happens and i got nothin.