Hossa to DET

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:48 am

Isn't Hossa going to be 30 soon? It was going to be a 7 year deal. I wonder how he's going to hold up. I'm sure he has a few more great years, but do wonder why he had such a crappy season last year. Even with the Pens, he was not putting enough pucks in the net for all the chances he was getting. He got the points, but you know what I mean. Of course, his defense was probably the best I've seen here since Francis.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:51 am

Sarcastic wrote:Isn't Hossa going to be 30 soon? It was going to be a 7 year deal. I wonder how he's going to hold up. I'm sure he has a few more great years, but do wonder why he had such a crappy season last year. Even with the Pens, he was not putting enough pucks in the net for all the chances he was getting. He got the points, but you know what I mean. Of course, his defense was probably the best I've seen here since Francis.

Playing with Sid or Geno could only elevate and enhance his offensive productivity. Defensively he likely would have done the same for any linemate he played with. He did pretty well offensively in the playoffs though and certainly wasn't just getting tap in goals (other then one I believe). He created for himself.

Now he's gone.

Post by **Pitts** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:54 am

Wow this thread hit the big "33"!

I'm thinking Rolling Rock!

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:56 am

crzymike wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:Isn't Hossa going to be 30 soon? It was going to be a 7 year deal. I wonder how he's going to hold up. I'm sure he has a few more great years, but do wonder why he had such a crappy season last year. Even with the Pens, he was not putting enough pucks in the net for all the chances he was getting. He got the points, but you know what I mean. Of course, his defense was probably the best I've seen here since Francis.
Playing with Sid or Geno could only elevate and enhance his offensive productivity. Defensively he likely would have done the same for any linemate he played with. He did pretty well offensively in the playoffs though and certainly wasn't just getting tap in goals (other then one I believe). He created for himself.

Now he's gone.

You need a hug, man. Go to your wife and tell her you need to cuddle.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:56 am

The Francis analogy really works here. He wasn't considered our first or second best player but he was part of the glue and quality depth that would help propell this team forward. If the guy was here for three and a half years I wonder if more people would care he's gone. To me it's the same thing as it pertains to losing a quality player.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:57 am

Sarcastic wrote:
crzymike wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:Isn't Hossa going to be 30 soon? It was going to be a 7 year deal. I wonder how he's going to hold up. I'm sure he has a few more great years, but do wonder why he had such a crappy season last year. Even with the Pens, he was not putting enough pucks in the net for all the chances he was getting. He got the points, but you know what I mean. Of course, his defense was probably the best I've seen here since Francis.
Playing with Sid or Geno could only elevate and enhance his offensive productivity. Defensively he likely would have done the same for any linemate he played with. He did pretty well offensively in the playoffs though and certainly wasn't just getting tap in goals (other then one I believe). He created for himself.

Now he's gone.
You need a hug, man. Go to your wife and tell her you need to cuddle.

She's in Stockholm visiting her family so I can't.

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:57 am

crzymike wrote:The Francis analogy really works here. He wasn't considered our first or second best player but he was part of the glue and quality depth that would help propell this team forward. If the guy was here for three and a half years I wonder if more people would care he's gone. To me it's the same thing as it pertains to losing a quality player.

I would. Thats exactly the point though, he was here for 3 months, no reason to be that attached.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:01 am

Idoit40fans wrote:
crzymike wrote:The Francis analogy really works here. He wasn't considered our first or second best player but he was part of the glue and quality depth that would help propell this team forward. If the guy was here for three and a half years I wonder if more people would care he's gone. To me it's the same thing as it pertains to losing a quality player.
I would. Thats exactly the point though, he was here for 3 months, no reason to be that attached.

I am looking at it from a perspective of pure talent and potential contributions. Just because he was here for a matter of months doesnt mean the loss is easier to take from my point of view. Players like him don't obviously come around much. We may feel worse due to the fact he was part of the Pittsburgh family and fabric for longer (3 and a half years). The loss however as far as his abilities is really the same.

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:05 am

crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
crzymike wrote:The Francis analogy really works here. He wasn't considered our first or second best player but he was part of the glue and quality depth that would help propell this team forward. If the guy was here for three and a half years I wonder if more people would care he's gone. To me it's the same thing as it pertains to losing a quality player.
I would. Thats exactly the point though, he was here for 3 months, no reason to be that attached.
I am looking at it from a perspective of pure talent and potential contributions. Just because he was here for a matter of months doesnt mean the loss is easier to take from my point of view. Players like him don't obviously come around much. We may feel worse due to the fact he was part of the Pittsburgh family and fabric for longer (3 and a half years). The loss however as far as his abilities is really the same.

Yeah but losing talent isn't generally what bothers people, its the emotional attachment being broke that bothers them. Otherwise no one would have cared about Armstrong leaving. Given I didn't care about Armstrong leaving, so I guess i'm some kind of hybrid that only really cares about players that have been around for a while and are better than dime a dozen.

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:06 am

crzymike wrote:The loss however as far as his abilities is really the same.

Well, that's true. But like I said, he's almost 30. Plus, he has two bad knees. I do have a question mark about him. How is he going to be 3 or 4 years from now? Worth such a huge contract?

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:14 am

Sarcastic wrote:
crzymike wrote:The loss however as far as his abilities is really the same.
Well, that's true. But like I said, he's almost 30. Plus, he has two bad knees. I do have a question mark about him. How is he going to be 3 or 4 years from now? Worth such a huge contract?

Thats true we don't know but I'd rather take that chance over a guy like Satan.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:16 am

Since ownership was willing to offer him such a lucrative deal though that tells me they could have afforded it. With cost certainty for nearly every key component it was definitely in their plans.

Free Candy · Post by **Free Candy** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:17 am

OFF TOPIC QUESTION BELOW!

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know or remember what the longest thread ever was? This one is getting pretty large.

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:18 am

Last werewolf thread was 53 pages, I think gdt's have gone over 60 a few times.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:18 am

Well over 60, theres one right now in NHR thats longer.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:20 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Last werewolf thread was 53 pages, I think gdt's have gone over 60 a few times.

You, Sarcastic and I are the latenight lets go pens crew. It's all good and it kills time!

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:23 am

Hahaha, yeah its funny that there is always someone around here to have a discussion with if there is something to discuss.

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:27 am

crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Last werewolf thread was 53 pages, I think gdt's have gone over 60 a few times.
You, Sarcastic and I are the latenight lets go pens crew. It's all good and it kills time!

Starting next Monday I may be here more for a couple of weeks. Look what they're gonna do to me. It's gross.

http://www.hgriggs.com/gallbladder.html

Needless to say, I am scared out of my mind. And angry. The good Lord put the thing in me and it should stay in there.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:27 am

Idoit40fans wrote:Hahaha, yeah its funny that there is always someone around here to have a discussion with if there is something to discuss.

Even if there isn't anything to discuss we can find something.

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:28 am

crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Hahaha, yeah its funny that there is always someone around here to have a discussion with if there is something to discuss.
Even if there isn't anything to discuss we can find something. :D

This is a good example of that scenario.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:30 am

Sarcastic wrote:
crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Last werewolf thread was 53 pages, I think gdt's have gone over 60 a few times.
You, Sarcastic and I are the latenight lets go pens crew. It's all good and it kills time!
Starting next Monday I may be here more for a couple of weeks. Look what they're gonna do to me. It's gross.

http://www.hgriggs.com/gallbladder.html

Needless to say, I am scared out of my mind. And angry. The good Lord put the thing in me and it should stay in there.

I honestly and truly wish you a safe and speedy recovery. I don't know what all is wrong with your bladder but if it helps save your life or helps you live a more normal life then by all means get it done. I'll definitely keep positive thoughts and say a prayer for you.

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:30 am

Oh, and hopefully I won't get the symptom he got as a result.... there's only a very small chance of that happening. Normally people are completely fine after that. Sh*t, I haven't been able to eat a pizza in over a year. Or a hamburger. I have 30+ pounds to gain back. I'm starving.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:31 am

Idoit40fans wrote:
crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Hahaha, yeah its funny that there is always someone around here to have a discussion with if there is something to discuss.
Even if there isn't anything to discuss we can find something.
This is a good example of that scenario.

Pretty much.

Sarcastic · Post by **Sarcastic** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:33 am

crzymike wrote:I don't know what all is wrong with your bladder

Gallstones. Basically, I can't eat anything fatty, too spicy, dairy, animal protein is bad too, etc.. Or I can get a pain attack so bad, it is described to be worse than childbirth. And it can be fatal if the gallbladder raptures or if the pancreas gets infected.

5 attacks so far.

crzymike · Post by **crzymike** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:33 am

crzymike wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:
crzymike wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Last werewolf thread was 53 pages, I think gdt's have gone over 60 a few times.
You, Sarcastic and I are the latenight lets go pens crew. It's all good and it kills time!
Starting next Monday I may be here more for a couple of weeks. Look what they're gonna do to me. It's gross.

http://www.hgriggs.com/gallbladder.html

Needless to say, I am scared out of my mind. And angry. The good Lord put the thing in me and it should stay in there.
I honestly and truly wish you a safe and speedy recovery. I don't know what all is wrong with your bladder but if it helps save your life or helps you live a more normal life then by all means get it done. I'll definitely keep positive thoughts and say a prayer for you.

After you get it done though you should be able to eat normally right?