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Crash66 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:18 pm If we didn't have Kyle Dubas we'd be looking for a Kyle Dubas. Isn't that how it goes?
Great comment!!!
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Kevin Hayes the new JFC? Haha
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Philly retains already on Hayes. He’s only $3.5 mill cap hit as is. We’ll see what the trade is. He’s better offensively than Eller.
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FWIW sounds like it might have been bigger than just Hayes

Hearing Torey Krug blocked the trade the Blues had to send Kevin Hayes to PIT.
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Things were moving fast until everyone started trading their picks.

One nice thing about Howe, he played and produced with Bedard and then changed his game to still be effective. Not all players can play with talent like that and then still do some things on their own.
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Feels good to see Jesse Marshall give the picks an A so far.
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Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
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Tanner Jeannot to the Kings. One less landing spot for Smith?
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Hayes and a 2025 2nd for nothing.

Hayes is $3.5 mill. 3C. This is fine.
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SteelCityFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Tanner Jeannot to the Kings. One less landing spot for Smith?
2nd and a 4th. I wouldn’t trade that much for Jeannot.
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thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
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Recoups the 2025 2nd round pick we didn’t have next season.

See if we move Eller or Acciari , and Smith.
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DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:30 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
I'm totally fine with it. It fills the 3C need, it's only for 2 years, and we get a 2nd. This is a savvy move and I like it.
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thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:33 pm
DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:30 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
I'm totally fine with it. It fills the 3C need, it's only for 2 years, and we get a 2nd. This is a savvy move and I like it.
It makes no sense if we don't move Eller. Eller at 34 is better than Hayes at 32. I'm ok with the pick for a cap dump, but just means Dubas has more work to do to clear salary.
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Logan Thompson to the Caps.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:35 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:33 pm
DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:30 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
I'm totally fine with it. It fills the 3C need, it's only for 2 years, and we get a 2nd. This is a savvy move and I like it.
It makes no sense if we don't move Eller. Eller at 34 is better than Hayes at 32. I'm ok with the pick for a cap dump, but just means Dubas has more work to do to clear salary.
Eller has one year left so he will be dealt it's just a matter of when and for what
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Penguins analysis
What a bizarre move by the Penguins. Less than 24 hours after general manager Kyle Dubas said the Penguins need to get younger and faster, he has traded for Kevin Hayes, a very accomplished but very slow player who was a healthy scratch with the Blues at times last season. Very interesting. — Josh Yohe
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Waiting to fully judge the Hayes deal until all of the dirt settles to the bottom of the tank and we can see what the overall NHL roster looks like. That said, adding a 2nd next year to take on a guy @ 3.1 for only 2 years is good business. Not a long-term anchor of a bad contract by any means.
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KG wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:36 pm Logan Thompson to the Caps.
Wow! For what?
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thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:41 pm
FLPensFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:35 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:33 pm
DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:30 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
I'm totally fine with it. It fills the 3C need, it's only for 2 years, and we get a 2nd. This is a savvy move and I like it.
It makes no sense if we don't move Eller. Eller at 34 is better than Hayes at 32. I'm ok with the pick for a cap dump, but just means Dubas has more work to do to clear salary.
Eller has one year left so he will be dealt it's just a matter of when and for what
But Eller could also be slotted into the 4C position with Acciari at RW. Trade Smith to replace Hayes' cap space and it really becomes Hayes for Smith.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:35 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:33 pm
DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:30 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:29 pm Hayes and Blues 2025 2nd for nothing. That's good
So we got a 2nd for taking on his contract and using up most of our free cap space. Not worth it.
I'm totally fine with it. It fills the 3C need, it's only for 2 years, and we get a 2nd. This is a savvy move and I like it.
It makes no sense if we don't move Eller. Eller at 34 is better than Hayes at 32. I'm ok with the pick for a cap dump, but just means Dubas has more work to do to clear salary.
Teams are rumored to want Eller. Maybe Dubas has a deal in place and wanted to get 3C figured out before trading. I like this kind of move. Will trade him at the deadline next season and get more picks/prospects.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:41 pm Penguins analysis
What a bizarre move by the Penguins. Less than 24 hours after general manager Kyle Dubas said the Penguins need to get younger and faster, he has traded for Kevin Hayes, a very accomplished but very slow player who was a healthy scratch with the Blues at times last season. Very interesting. — Josh Yohe
Well, the 2nd round pick certainly got them younger. :D

In a snapshot, I will agree with Yohe, but who's to say Hayes will even be on the roster in September or playing nightly? For all we know, Dubas sends him to WBS during training camp, waives or trades him.
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Hayes is s-l-o-w. He is also 32. If the idea is to get older and slower, great add!
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brwi wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:51 pm Hayes is s-l-o-w. He is also 32. If the idea is to get older and slower, great add!
Replacing Jeff Carter with Jeff Carter essentially.
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Mad City Mike wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:42 pm
KG wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:36 pm Logan Thompson to the Caps.
Wow! For what?
Couple of picks...