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Daniel wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:22 am
Antonio wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:50 pm So far I've been less than impressed with the wunderkind after a year. I'll see how the off season goes but the first year was mostly failures, misses and obvious and avoidable dips*ittery.
I think he's restricted by FSG in that they want to win now in spite of the fact that they can't with a coach that is past his due date. I'd like to see how Dubas unleashed can do.
I wrestle with how true this is all the time. It sure seems like he may be restricted by FSG, but...look at what he left in Toronto. All the information out there is that he was often driven to do things by Shanahan and above.

Why on Earth would he bolt Toronto, only to come to Pittsburgh to put himself in a very similar situation? That just doesn't make sense for Dubas. Toronto was too controlling, so I'm leaving to go to Pittsburgh, where the owners are also too controlling?
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Who else is ready to give some ignorant analysis on who we pick on why these will be the greatest or worst picks ever made by Dubas today?
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Capitals just traded with Buffalo for the 43rd pick overall, right before our first pick. If I'm the Penguins, I'm looking to give up one of our 7ths or even our 6th round pick to try and move up some spots into earlier 2nd round. There are still 5 or 6 guys there with first round grades. Be a little aggressive and see if you can snag one of them, rather HOPING that a few of them fall to your pick.
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DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:32 am Who else is ready to give some ignorant analysis on who we pick on why these will be the greatest or worst picks ever made by Dubas today?
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First pick in the 2nd round is one of the players still with a consensus 1st round grade, Igor Chernyshov
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Amazing how fast picks come in when you don’t make a huge production about it.
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DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:32 am Who else is ready to give some ignorant analysis on who we pick on why these will be the greatest or worst picks ever made by Dubas today?
Not me.. i feel too ignorant to even field a coherent post
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Whoa! Tampa trades Sergachev to Utah.
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We just got Kevin Hayes from blues
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Pensfan4life8771 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:49 am We just got Kevin Hayes from blues
They spelled Brandon Saad wrong.
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Brunicke has some decent size already. Satisfcatory pick.
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Seriously.
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Both these seem like safe picks.
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Something tells me it’s Smith for Hayes. We’d open up 1.2M in cap and it allows you to move Eller to 4C.
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DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:53 am Both these seem like safe picks.
Jesse likes the Tanner Howe pick, saying he fell.

The Kevin Hayes trade is puzzling. Eller produced more points than Hayes. Hayes is not a good skater. He has size. Haven't heard the return yet, but with a 7.1M cap hit this year and next, I think we either dumped Smith in this trade, or Dubas got a high draft pick to take on that salary. Hayes is also a lefty...when we really need a right handed center besides Acciari.

Didn't realize Philly was still retaining on Hayes. That helps, but I still don't understand the fit.
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Marino traded from the Devils
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From netwolf:

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I don’t understand getting Hayes either. It’s a step backwards.
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Skatingpen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:59 am Marino traded from the Devils
Utah really changing their defense, adding Sergachev and Marino.
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FLPensFan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:31 am
Daniel wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:22 am
Antonio wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:50 pm So far I've been less than impressed with the wunderkind after a year. I'll see how the off season goes but the first year was mostly failures, misses and obvious and avoidable dips*ittery.
I think he's restricted by FSG in that they want to win now in spite of the fact that they can't with a coach that is past his due date. I'd like to see how Dubas unleashed can do.
I wrestle with how true this is all the time. It sure seems like he may be restricted by FSG, but...look at what he left in Toronto. All the information out there is that he was often driven to do things by Shanahan and above.

Why on Earth would he bolt Toronto, only to come to Pittsburgh to put himself in a very similar situation? That just doesn't make sense for Dubas. Toronto was too controlling, so I'm leaving to go to Pittsburgh, where the owners are also too controlling?
I've never really thought of FSG as too controlling in other sports so maybe he thought they wouldn't be controlling to this extent. They have a reputation of "only players have a salary cap" mentality so Dubas might have thought he'd be given free reign to staff as he wants. He might have been surprised by the restrictions after the contract was signed.
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Kevin Hayes is everything we don't need. Old slow and not physical we better have gotten a sweetener to take him
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thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm Kevin Hayes is everything we don't need. Old slow and not physical we better have gotten a sweetener to take him
And another year left on his contract.
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If we didn't have Kyle Dubas we'd be looking for a Kyle Dubas. Isn't that how it goes?
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DelPen wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:14 pm
thehockeyguru wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:12 pm Kevin Hayes is everything we don't need. Old slow and not physical we better have gotten a sweetener to take him
And another year left on his contract.
If we were to move out Acciari then ok. It has to be for a pick or another bad contract going out.