2024 NHL Trade Deadline Discussion

[dark_forces]

If there's one player who's definitely gone from the Penguin's roster by Friday's deadline, who is it?

[maopens]

Not to beat the dead horse much further, but will any trade really make any difference as long as the system being enforced is unsuitable/unsustainable for any substantial length of time? The failure to adapt (perhaps refusal is a better word) the system to the roster is beyond maddening. It doesn't seem to matter who gets acquired, mediocrity seems to be the norm at present.

No better and more current example than to see what Nylander is doing in Columbus when given a chance to actually play. 6 points in 5 games. Meanwhile, the coach's favorite, Harkins has 4 points in 42 games this season.

I'm not suggesting that Nylander was any sort of answer for this team's problems but he has some skill that the Pens could never utilize but others have in a short period of time.

[Ericf]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

[Pitts]

Not to beat the dead horse much further, but will any trade really make any difference as long as the system being enforced is unsuitable/unsustainable for any substantial length of time? The failure to adapt (perhaps refusal is a better word) the system to the roster is beyond maddening. It doesn't seem to matter who gets acquired, mediocrity seems to be the norm at present.

No better and more current example than to see what Nylander is doing in Columbus when given a chance to actually play. 6 points in 5 games. Meanwhile, the coach's favorite, Harkins has 4 points in 42 games this season.

I'm not suggesting that Nylander was any sort of answer for this team's problems but he has some skill that the Pens could never utilize but others have in a short period of time.

2 other teams prior to the Pens couldn't utilize that skill either. This is not a Pen's problem... it's a player problem. Betting he falls off the map in the next 2 weeks.

[maopens]

Perhaps.

But in 5 games in Columbus, he has outscored everyone on the Pens' 4th line not named Carter and they've played an entire season.

[pekkasteele]

Maybe GMKD had to give Sully this season but hopefully between end of game 82 and on the way down to the looker room he will be fired.

I don't really care now if Sully is fired today or after the season, maybe it is better that he stays for the rest of the season, we will get better drafting position then. As long as we get assets for as many players as we can.

[KG]

If there's one player who's definitely gone from the Penguin's roster by Friday's deadline, who is it?

R. Smith

[lemieuxReturns]

One way to get some answers is for the reporters to ask Dubas himself why it seems on multiple occasions a guy has no spot on the roster but can leave and have success elsewhere. Either the answer is that he cannot evaluate talent correctly, or that his coach cannot use it correctly. Let's see if Dubas likes the heat.

[FLPensFan]

Rumor from George Richards (covers Panthers, formerly a few other teams as well) is that Tarasenko wants to go to Florida.

I'd say Tarasenko as a rental makes a lot more sense for Florida than Jake does. The cost shouldn't be as high, and the prospects don't need to be top of the line guys. OTT probably wants a 1st and a B level prospect.

[Puck-Lurker]

One way to get some answers is for the reporters to ask Dubas himself why it seems on multiple occasions a guy has no spot on the roster but can leave and have success elsewhere. Either the answer is that he cannot evaluate talent correctly, or that his coach cannot use it correctly. Let's see if Dubas likes the heat.

You know Dubas will take that heat for Sully, regardless of what he actually thinks

[Wyopen]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

Totally agree. I think KD is a puppet. I wonder why he even took the position of POHO/GM if his hands were going to be tied.

[Crash66]

How do we know his hands are tied.? Perhaps he's just stupid and stubborn like a few others.

[yinzer69]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

Totally agree. I think KD is a puppet. I wonder why he even took the position of POHO/GM if his hands were going to be tied.

Disagree, Dubas didn't come here to be anyone's puppet. It was no sure thing he even wanted the job. They literally had to wine and dine Dubas and his family. He didn't come here without full and total control. Period. These last few weeks have convinced me I think Sully's expiration date has been hit and a new coaching staff is needed by the way.

[KG]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

Totally agree. I think KD is a puppet. I wonder why he even took the position of POHO/GM if his hands were going to be tied.

Disagree, Dubas didn't come here to be anyone's puppet. It was no sure thing he even wanted the job. They literally had to wine and dine Dubas and his family. He didn't come here without full and total control. Period. These last few weeks have convinced me I think Sully's expiration date has been hit and a new coaching staff is needed by the way.

I agree. I think Dubas wanted to give the staff and team a long run to see if they could right the ship. They clearly are expired as a group and need a re-tool. Coaching staff included.

[yinzer69]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

Totally agree. I think KD is a puppet. I wonder why he even took the position of POHO/GM if his hands were going to be tied.

Disagree, Dubas didn't come here to be anyone's puppet. It was no sure thing he even wanted the job. They literally had to wine and dine Dubas and his family. He didn't come here without full and total control. Period. These last few weeks have convinced me I think Sully's expiration date has been hit and a new coaching staff is needed by the way.

I agree. I think Dubas wanted to give the staff and team a long run to see if they could right the ship. They clearly are expired as a group and need a re-tool. Coaching staff included.

Agreed. Dubas gave this group and coaching staff the benefit of the doubt. I think these 60 games have proven its time for MAJOR changes As far as the coaching staff I see 1 of 2 things happening.
1. Sully is kept but forced to get rid of all his assistant coaches.
2. The whole coaching staff is fired.

I think #1 is more likely to happen, but really believing #2 is what should happen.

[lemieuxReturns]

I would think that if Smith is being shopped, Vegas would be in on him. So, I would think Jake would be going to a different team.

[Pitts]

What???

[Coffey Break]

What???

The GMJR masterclass! I'm down for this to get wild.

[KG]

Some non-Jake rumors...

NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
Friedman on TJMS: “I’ve had people tell me that they think the Kings are one of the teams that has interest in Reilly Smith, I think that’s really complicated to do, REALLY complicated to do”

[KG]

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Hearing that veteran forward Jason Zucker is being held out of the #coyotes lineup for tonight's game vs. Chicago.

He's drawing trade interest from multiple teams.

[Pitts]

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Hearing that veteran forward Jason Zucker is being held out of the #coyotes lineup for tonight's game vs. Chicago. Smith!

He's drawing trade interest from multiple teams.

To PGH for Rielly Smith!

[FLPensFan]

Minnesota close to extending Zach Bogosian. Takes him off the trade deadline table.

[pekkasteele]

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Hearing that veteran forward Jason Zucker is being held out of the #coyotes lineup for tonight's game vs. Chicago. Smith!

He's drawing trade interest from multiple teams.

To PGH for Rielly Smith!

But we don't need a rental ...

[Pens4Life]

Anyone who can’t see that Dubas CAN’T fire Sullivan hasn’t been reading the tea leaves, or listening to his press conferences lol. I for one will be extremely excited to see Sullivan “fixing” our best prospects over the next three years. This organization has really fallen off under FSG

Totally agree. I think KD is a puppet. I wonder why he even took the position of POHO/GM if his hands were going to be tied.

Disagree, Dubas didn't come here to be anyone's puppet. It was no sure thing he even wanted the job. They literally had to wine and dine Dubas and his family. He didn't come here without full and total control. Period. These last few weeks have convinced me I think Sully's expiration date has been hit and a new coaching staff is needed by the way.

New coaching staff was needed year ago and now even more obvious.. but the big question remains,will KD make a change in offseason!? By his comments so far, Sullivan is staying,regardless..

[KG]

Mantha to Vegas. Wonder if they’re out on Jake or Smith? They still have plenty of cap space!