It's the fine tradition of ruining national anthems on hockey nights. It drives me up one wall and down the other.KG wrote:That was the longest and slowest rendition of the Canadian anthem I’ve ever heard.DelPen wrote:Do Leafs fans usually sound like they are booing during the Star Spangled Banner?
I said it before, get rid of the anthems. Zero need. These players aren’t representing their countries, this isn’t international play. They’re essentially representing billionaires.Puck-Lurker wrote:It's the fine tradition of ruining national anthems on hockey nights. It drives me up one wall and down the other.KG wrote:That was the longest and slowest rendition of the Canadian anthem I’ve ever heard.DelPen wrote:Do Leafs fans usually sound like they are booing during the Star Spangled Banner?
I've ceased commenting about it during Pens games, because it creates very bad juju. It's like 80% losses when I do. :shock:
Great way to form an opinion.penny lane wrote:I have seen enough of Dubas with Jason Spezza; not the guys for Pittsburgh.
murphydump55 wrote:Great way to form an opinion.penny lane wrote:I have seen enough of Dubas with Jason Spezza; not the guys for Pittsburgh.
Oh I've seen them sitting in a box, they aren't good enough for Pittsburgh. Makes sense.penny lane wrote:murphydump55 wrote:Great way to form an opinion.penny lane wrote:I have seen enough of Dubas with Jason Spezza; not the guys for Pittsburgh.
Merci beaucoup
The word on the street is that Dubas is often overruled by Shanahan. To what degree, I have no idea, but that's the feeling, that Dubas would do much better where he has more free reign to make decisions without constantly being stared at over his shoulder by an old school hockey guy.DelPen wrote:Dubas has been with the Leafs since 2014 and as their GM since 2018. That’s a long time and a lot of trades and moves with one playoff round victory in all that time and it would be fair to say the Lightning are just worn out for how much hockey that core has been playing since August 2020.
His team is getting out worked by a good Panthers team but that was the issue for almost two decades in the first round.
The problem with the Leafs looks to be a core that doesn’t rise to the occasion and the GM won’t shake that up. I don’t see how he would succeed in Pittsburgh if he hasn’t in Toronto. The same general issues would be in place in Pittsburgh that he wouldn’t be able to work around to field a team that could compete for a cup.
I too have seen plenty of Dubas and I too have seen enough to not want him here.
Tavares was signed on 7/1/18. Dubas was promoted almost two months earlier on 5/11/18. If you can tell me with certainty that Tavares was a Shanny move and not Dubas I would maybe consider him but even then, he allowed him to be signed when he was the last thing they needed.FLPensFan wrote:The word on the street is that Dubas is often overruled by Shanahan. To what degree, I have no idea, but that's the feeling, that Dubas would do much better where he has more free reign to make decisions without constantly being stared at over his shoulder by an old school hockey guy.DelPen wrote:Dubas has been with the Leafs since 2014 and as their GM since 2018. That’s a long time and a lot of trades and moves with one playoff round victory in all that time and it would be fair to say the Lightning are just worn out for how much hockey that core has been playing since August 2020.
His team is getting out worked by a good Panthers team but that was the issue for almost two decades in the first round.
The problem with the Leafs looks to be a core that doesn’t rise to the occasion and the GM won’t shake that up. I don’t see how he would succeed in Pittsburgh if he hasn’t in Toronto. The same general issues would be in place in Pittsburgh that he wouldn’t be able to work around to field a team that could compete for a cup.
I too have seen plenty of Dubas and I too have seen enough to not want him here.
At the same time, that was 5y ago, maybe he have learnt a thing or two since then?DelPen wrote:Tavares was signed on 7/1/18. Dubas was promoted almost two months earlier on 5/11/18. If you can tell me with certainty that Tavares was a Shanny move and not Dubas I would maybe consider him but even then, he allowed him to be signed when he was the last thing they needed.FLPensFan wrote:The word on the street is that Dubas is often overruled by Shanahan. To what degree, I have no idea, but that's the feeling, that Dubas would do much better where he has more free reign to make decisions without constantly being stared at over his shoulder by an old school hockey guy.DelPen wrote:Dubas has been with the Leafs since 2014 and as their GM since 2018. That’s a long time and a lot of trades and moves with one playoff round victory in all that time and it would be fair to say the Lightning are just worn out for how much hockey that core has been playing since August 2020.
His team is getting out worked by a good Panthers team but that was the issue for almost two decades in the first round.
The problem with the Leafs looks to be a core that doesn’t rise to the occasion and the GM won’t shake that up. I don’t see how he would succeed in Pittsburgh if he hasn’t in Toronto. The same general issues would be in place in Pittsburgh that he wouldn’t be able to work around to field a team that could compete for a cup.
I too have seen plenty of Dubas and I too have seen enough to not want him here.
I can get on board with that. I've always wondered about the pretty much uniquely american urge to play the anthem, fly or even troop the colours, have a bunch of military personnel saluting...murphydump55 wrote:I said it before, get rid of the anthems. Zero need. These players aren’t representing their countries, this isn’t international play. They’re essentially representing billionaires.Puck-Lurker wrote:It's the fine tradition of ruining national anthems on hockey nights. It drives me up one wall and down the other.KG wrote:That was the longest and slowest rendition of the Canadian anthem I’ve ever heard.DelPen wrote:Do Leafs fans usually sound like they are booing during the Star Spangled Banner?
I've ceased commenting about it during Pens games, because it creates very bad juju. It's like 80% losses when I do.
I will pretty much include Canada when I say America, by geography if not by proxy. Probably should've said so more clearly than only by lumping Canadian/US players together, but I try to cut back on my pedantry. (I probably fail at that, too)Antonio wrote:Well I'm pretty sure they play the anthem in Canada at sporting events as well as the United States. And regarding the anthem in the US, national pride and patriotism used to be a fairly strong aspect of American culture, but don't worry the way things are currently in this country pretty soon in a few years they won't be playing the anthem anymore or it'll be illegal to say anything other than you hate the US.
I can't say I disagree however with the sentiment that they are essentially playing for billionaires and it isn't international play. I would say that previously at one point the anthem used to be played less for the players and more because it was a significant sporting event in that country and it was for the fans, but I don't think it's a crazy idea to just not play anthems at all with the sentiment that the players themselves are global and focusing more on the idea that it doesn't necessarily represent a majority of them at any given time rather than the fans themselves. Who knows though, maybe sports fans overall would prefer the anthems be played. I don't know.
Also seeing reports he was very interested in CBJ when they hired Larsen, so he may end up there.penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.
Rangers are hoping Sully will be available I'm sure...penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.
I heard Quenneville if the NHL allows him, which they shouldn’t after that Hawks embarrassment. If the Rangers want Sullivan, I’d trade him there in a heartbeat. Maybe we can get a first for him. He should have been gone a couple years ago.KG wrote:Rangers are hoping Sully will be available I'm sure...penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.
Carter and Sullivan to NYR for future considerations?Ericf wrote:I heard Quenneville if the NHL allows him, which they shouldn’t after that Hawks embarrassment. If the Rangers want Sullivan, I’d trade him there in a heartbeat. Maybe we can get a first for him. He should have been gone a couple years ago.KG wrote:Rangers are hoping Sully will be available I'm sure...penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.
That would be cause for celebration.bse wrote:Carter and Sullivan to NYR for future considerations?Ericf wrote:I heard Quenneville if the NHL allows him, which they shouldn’t after that Hawks embarrassment. If the Rangers want Sullivan, I’d trade him there in a heartbeat. Maybe we can get a first for him. He should have been gone a couple years ago.KG wrote:Rangers are hoping Sully will be available I'm sure...penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.
Few of them $1 slices works for me.Puck-Lurker wrote:That would be cause for celebration.bse wrote:Carter and Sullivan to NYR for future considerations?Ericf wrote:I heard Quenneville if the NHL allows him, which they shouldn’t after that Hawks embarrassment. If the Rangers want Sullivan, I’d trade him there in a heartbeat. Maybe we can get a first for him. He should have been gone a couple years ago.KG wrote:Rangers are hoping Sully will be available I'm sure...penny lane wrote:Gerard Gallant and NYR have parted ways per Larry Brooks.