Letang Is The Truth wrote:If someone is emailing you after normal business hours do they really anticipating a response? As mentioned before, I do it so I don't forget. I have no expectation that it gets returned. If something is urgent, I will call you and really ruin your dinner
i get late e-mails that require responses all the time, but those don't bother me. that's part of the job.
it's when i finally feel disconnected from the office, i'm relaxing, and some turkey sends me something that doesn't need discussed until the next day. i don't respond, but it's enough to take me out of the vibe i was going for.
shafnutz05 wrote:Mandatory computer restarts during work hours (I know this is blatant shmenguin bait )
no, i don't care if people put off windows updates. it doesn't affect my company one iota. i always postpone them.
How about Windows servers set to restart after updates? I've seen that before. It's bad enough that Windows servers are being used but
we use windows servers because they can be managed by laymen (like yours truly) without any real expertise required. i set our redundant web servers to reboot automatically, but i have to manually pull the trigger on our database servers.
UNIX servers are awesome but I'd by lying if I said I could go very far off script. I'll probably get worse since I don't have to at all anymore. Even if I stood up a Solaris 10 box again I don't have anything worth doing with it. We've talked about it before, but I like 2012 R2 if you don't factor in the licensing confusion.
I check mine because my boss (grad school is a little different) will e-mail me and ask for data, figures, etc at all times of the day and night. When I graduate though, you can be damn sure I'm checking out when I leave work, and not checking back in until I get back in the morning.
I can see if you are on call, but I made it a policy not to check my email after I am done working for the day. If it is an emergency, my boss and coworkers have my cell phone number and can reach me that way.
when I leave work I am done with anything work-related until I get to work the next day. If you want to contact me outside of work, **** you.
I also read that people that do work things outside of work like checking emails and whatnot are generally less happy because it's added stress so I try to keep work at work. Of course when we do a release that means I'm on my work laptop for a few hours on Saturday but otherwise it's not my problem.
Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:I can see if you are on call, but I made it a policy not to check my email after I am done working for the day. If it is an emergency, my boss and coworkers have my cell phone number and can reach me that way.
skullman80 wrote:If you are on call .. that is different. When I worked on call I expected to get emails/calls at any time.
Now that I don't do on call work.. when I leave the office, I am totally disconnected from work until the next day.
i think you're missing the point. if you're on call, you expect to get legitimate e-mails. there shouldn't be, "oh sometime next week i want to talk about this and that" sprinkled in. the amount of times you have to go into your phone to check e-mails should be minimized.
worse is when you're trying to take a vacation, and you get the same nonsense, even though people know you're on vacation and know that you will be interrupted by a buzzing phone with the useless e-mail that they send.
You guys should be in business. I regularly receive phone calls at 10pm or later, sometimes even in Sundays. I want to say, "You really couldn't have waited until tomorrow for this?" I think the record was a call around 2am.
I also received two business related emails on Christmas Day and a phone call New Years Day.
Hockeynut! wrote:You guys should be in business. I regularly receive phone calls at 10pm or later, sometimes even in Sundays. I want to say, "You really couldn't have waited until tomorrow for this?" I think the record was a call around 2am.
I also received two business related emails on Christmas Day and a phone call New Years Day.
i never want to run my own business. almost everything about it seems terrible.
Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:I can see if you are on call, but I made it a policy not to check my email after I am done working for the day. If it is an emergency, my boss and coworkers have my cell phone number and can reach me that way.
This is the approach I have. During our busy two or 3 days a month of closing, I'll check before I go to bed to make sure everything is ok, but we have people in Europe that handle the stuff going on during the evening. It takes just a few minutes. But outside of that, usually once I go home, I'm done unless I get a text from my boss to check on something, which is very rare. And typically I know if something is coming before I leave for work.
For some people it's part of the job, but typically they are compensated for that responsibility. If you don't want that responsibility, then know the position before you take it.
Letang Is The Truth wrote:If someone is emailing you after normal business hours do they really anticipating a response? As mentioned before, I do it so I don't forget. I have no expectation that it gets returned. If something is urgent, I will call you and really ruin your dinner
newarenanow wrote:
For some people it's part of the job, but typically they are compensated for that responsibility. If you don't want that responsibility, then know the position before you take it.
Bingo. I could/did make more in the private side, but with gov IT I have a set working schedule with very few demands outside of that. That's pretty sweet for IT. I assessed what's important to me and smaller lifetime earnings in exchange for job security and being left alone after 4:30pm is worth it to me.
I get e-mails pretty much every hour of the day because we have projects all over the world. I read all the messages when I see I have one and determine whether it can wait until the next work morning or not.
skullman80 wrote:If you are on call .. that is different. When I worked on call I expected to get emails/calls at any time.
Now that I don't do on call work.. when I leave the office, I am totally disconnected from work until the next day.
i think you're missing the point. if you're on call, you expect to get legitimate e-mails. there shouldn't be, "oh sometime next week i want to talk about this and that" sprinkled in. the amount of times you have to go into your phone to check e-mails should be minimized.
worse is when you're trying to take a vacation, and you get the same nonsense, even though people know you're on vacation and know that you will be interrupted by a buzzing phone with the useless e-mail that they send.
Hockeynut! wrote:You guys should be in business. I regularly receive phone calls at 10pm or later, sometimes even in Sundays. I want to say, "You really couldn't have waited until tomorrow for this?" I think the record was a call around 2am.
I also received two business related emails on Christmas Day and a phone call New Years Day.
When I was on call at my old job I got woken out of bed plenty of times by the phone at like 2 or 3 am it sucked. we were only on call a week at a time, but it sucked working a full 40 hours week, and then to go home but never actually be "off of work".
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