Jerry Sandusky and Related Trials

[DudeMan2766]

I love how calling something a narrative automatically discredits anything. I think the notion that Joe Paterno knew absolutely nothing and is being used as a scapegoat in all this is just a PSU narrative

[Factorial]

Mrs Sandusky pens OpEd after viewing the upcoming "Happy Valley" documentary:

'Jerry is not a pedophile and ... he did not commit the horrible crimes

http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2014/11 ... rt_m-rpt-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[columbia]

Why would they give her a platform to spout this garbage?

[DontToewsMeBro]

page clicks of course.

[Troy Loney]

Definitely a decent market for telling PSU alumni how screwed over they've been.

[count2infinity]

go find a PSU alumni that thinks Sandusky isn't a pedophile...

[relantel]

go find a PSU alumni that thinks Sandusky isn't a pedophile...

I don't think you'll find any. Dottie may be the only one who thinks that.

I may think Sandusky didn't get a fair trial, but I sure believe the right result was arrived at.

[relantel]

holy crap, the NCAA emails that just came out... (Starting at page 16 of this PDF:

http://media.centredaily.com/smedia/201 ... ink=relast" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(and these are from emails the NCAA didn't fight to conceal...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... te-in-2012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

PSU alumni, as you can see our "fearless" leaders Rodney Erickson and the BoT at the time decided to send our University and our reputations down a river. In no way should Peetz, Fraser, and any of the other 11/9/11 trustees that are still on the board remain after these emails show their obvious lack of fiduciary duty.

http://onwardstate.com/2014/11/05/inter ... enn-state/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“We could try to assert jurisdiction on this issue and may be successful but it’d be a stretch,” wrote former NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe in an email on July 14, 10 days before the sanctions were announced. “I characterized our approach to PSU as a bluff when talking to Mark [Emmert] yesterday afternoon after the call. He basically agreed b/c if we make this an enforcement issue, we may win the immediate battle but lose the war when the COI [Committee on Infractions] has to rule.”

Not only did the NCAA admit that it was bluffing Penn State when it extorted it into signing the consent decree — it admitted that, without Penn State complying out of embarrassment (or whatever reason Old Main gives these days), it didn’t have jurisdiction to act.

“I know we are banking on the fact the school is so embarrassed they will do anything, but I am not sure about that, and no confidence conference or other members will agree to that,” wrote NCAA Vice President of Academic and Membership Affairs Kevin Lennon on the same day. “This will force the jurisdictional issue that we really don’t have a great answer to that one…”

The emails also show that the officials question whether Penn State received a competitive advantage as a result of Jerry Sandusky’s abuse not coming to light sooner, which was at the heart of the justification for the sanctions (i.e. vacating wins because, had Sandusky’s conduct been revealed in 1998, Penn State wouldn’t have been able to attract the level of talent it did during that time).

“I think Mark believes based on conversations with some presidents that PSU did gain an advantage although Berst, Wally and I disagree with that point,” Roe wrote. “The point some have made is that had PSU dealt with this in 2001, they might have suffered a recruiting disadvantage due to the bad publicity at that point. Given that they have a decent recruiting class now, not sure this holds up.”

“Delicate issue, but how did PSU gain a competitive advantage by what happened?” Lennon wrote. “Even if discovered, reported, and actions taken immediately by the administration, not sure how this would have changed anything from a competitive advantage perspective.”

To recap: these emails reveal that the NCAA knew it had no jurisdictional claim over an inherently criminal matter but chose to act anyway, banking on Penn State’s compliance. Of course, the rest is history — Penn State President Rodney Erickson, with the backing of Board of Trustees leadership, did comply to the NCAA’s extortion, despite it being characterized here as a “bluff.” The actual reasons for that decision are still hidden behind a wall of public relations flack — I tend to think it had something to do with the corporate “apologize and move on” method of management that permeates Penn State leadership these days – but these emails expose the NCAA for extremely questionable governing practices at the very least.

If this sort of blunt language is in the emails the NCAA chose NOT to fight, imagine the stuff in the ones it did. In any case, discovery should be fun.

[tifosi77]

Wow, that's kind of ridiculous.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

PSU releases statement

http://news.psu.edu/story/333525/2014/1 ... g-proposed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We find it deeply disturbing that NCAA officials in leadership positions would consider bluffing one of their member institutions, Penn State, to accept sanctions outside of their normal investigative and enforcement process.

We are considering our options. It is important to understand, however, that Penn State is in the midst of a number of legal and civil cases associated with these matters. We therefore have no additional comment.

We also want it to be clear: Penn State’s commitment to the fight against child abuse and to the implementation of best practice governance, ethics and compliance programs and policies remains steadfast.

Possibly finally showing some courage to stand up for itself. I'd be surprised if the administration would actually do something to go against the NCAA though.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

NCAA has to go to trial over Penn State sanctions, court rules

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... um=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[relantel]

Barron may be pushed into changing sides. Though he has the same counsel that Erickson had when the CD was signed, so don't hold your breath.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

Corbett: Penn State 'probably' should not have fired Paterno

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/polit ... xbmajmi.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I guess after not getting reelected partly because of his decision to fire Paterno, he decided it wasn't a good idea.

[relantel]

Corbett: Penn State 'probably' should not have fired Paterno

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/polit ... xbmajmi.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I guess after not getting reelected partly because of his decision to fire Paterno, he decided it wasn't a good idea.

He's right. Speaking up like this would not have helped him any. He still would have been toast.

Interesting that 40% of Pennsylvanians said that was their top issue.

[tifosi77]

Interesting that 40% of Pennsylvanians said that was their top issue.

I heard that on Wednesday and thought it was an amazing stat. 40% of voters, wow.

[count2infinity]

Interesting that 40% of Pennsylvanians said that was their top issue.

Exit polls Tuesday showed that nearly 40 percent of the voters considered Corbett's handling of the investigation a very or somewhat important issue.

very or somewhat important =/= top issue.

[tifosi77]

The fact that such a large segment of voters considered it at all is significant. Cos those aren't all PSU alums.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

No bluffing -- NCAA has lost all of its credibility with Penn State, USC, etc.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... d/24788147" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CitizenKane clapping dot gif

[Rocco]

The NCAA had credibility?

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

Court Rules NCAA Must Turn Over 477 Documents...in 7 days

http://onwardstate.com/2014/11/07/court ... cord-case/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[relantel]

Been reading through the Kevin Lennon deposition and exhibits (mostly emails but also the entire NCAA constitution and Bylaws that existed in 2011/2012). Very riveting. (not!) It's objection this and objection that about every other question. It seems they go to great lengths to say that it was "not a negotiation" between NCAA and PSU, yet that PSU entered willingly. Also seems the NCAA had already largely decided on what to do within 3 days of the Freeh Report. Sanctioning PSU akin to "shooting road kill".

It seems the underlying reason for the filing is the constant objection dealing with Donald Remy of the NCAA, where plantiffs (Corman) argue that attorney-client and work product privileges don't apply just because an attorney was in the conversation - they need to prove he was actively providing legal advice as the primary purpose.

Other takeaway - OSU President Ed Ray (then Chair of the NCAA Board) wanted to use ESPN's Rick Reilly as a guiding source on Sanctions.

http://media.centredaily.com/smedia/201 ... ink=relast" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Finally started reading the Bob Williams deposition (@NCAABob) but that may be just as long. (Page 181 of the PDF) so will save additional thoughts for later.

[MRandall25]

Should be noted that OSU, in this instance, is Oregon State.

[relantel]

Should be noted that OSU, in this instance, is Oregon State.

Directly, yes, but Ray does have ties to Ohio State, albeit earlier in his career. Not that that has anything to do with this or anything else. Just an uninteresting connection.

[Sam's Drunk Dog]

Former Penn State Trustee Joel Myers Calls For Condemnation of NCAA, Restoration of Fine Money

http://www.statecollege.com/mobile/news ... y,1461656/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;