Pronger Interviews with Dept. Of Player Safety

[Crankshaft]

#justI40things

lol

[viva la ben]

Where is the official announcment?

[Pavel Bure]

People hold two jobs all the time. Big deal.

[jmh470]

Pretty much every aspect of this is absurd: Pronger's contract itself, him being on LTIR, Pronger and 'player safety' being used in the same sentence, this going through without significant objection...

Truly impressive, even for the NHL.

[MRandall25]

People hold two jobs all the time. Big deal.

But I can almost guarantee their 2 jobs don't have conflicts of interest.

[columbia]

And are not in violation of a contract.

[offsides]

People hold two jobs all the time. Big deal.

But in this case, they are breaking a CBA rule.

Elliotte Friedman ✔ @FriedgeHNIC
Pronger: issue is in Article 26 of CBA. No one being paid by a team can be paid by the league

[shmenguin]

a 25 year old pronger is less likely to have to retire during his contract than a 35 year old pronger. the flyers took a risk when they signed an old player to a long deal, and they lost. if he's employed by the NHL, the flyers need to eat that cap hit - despite the fact that they'd rather he be playing right now.

The NHL disagrees with you.

Wouldn't be the first time.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

I don't understand how the NHL is going through with this. They HAVE to know that rule. And if they forgive Pronger's cap hit that's a ridiculously unfair ruling.

[DropEmJayBird]

a 25 year old pronger is less likely to have to retire during his contract than a 35 year old pronger. the flyers took a risk when they signed an old player to a long deal, and they lost. if he's employed by the NHL, the flyers need to eat that cap hit - despite the fact that they'd rather he be playing right now.

Comcast disagrees with you.

fixed.

[columbia]

Hextall: NHL's hiring of Pronger 'a good move'
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[dodint]

With it being such a clear cut violation of the CBA can't pretty much anyone on either side file a grievance and challenge it?

[Jim]

Value of Hextall's opinion when it comes to player safety = 0

[Defence21]

Re: Philly circumventing the cap.

My line of thinking is like this: Pronger and the Flyers entered into a mutually agreed upon contract that had an over-35 stipulation to it, meaning the only way the cap hit comes off the book is if the player is traded to another team (or if the player goes on LTIR). Pronger has effectively retired, having not played for years and now being hired by the NHL. Letting the Flyers off the hook regarding his cap hit is entirely wrong. Now that he is working, he is no longer effectively retired, but rather officially retired from hockey as a player. As a result, the Flyers, who willingly signed him to the contract, should be on the hook for his cap hit until his contract is due to expire. Period. If that does not happen, what legs does the over-35 contract rule have to stand on? Whether the Flyers and Pronger initially intended to circumvent the cap is irrelevant. When a player retires, which he has, his contract cannot be hidden, traded, removed, forgotten, etc. If it happens here, there's a major issue and precedent to let this sort of thing happen moving forward.

[Beveridge]

A part of me would like to think the league, without it being public knowledge, has given the Flyers a date when they need to have stuff shuffled around to start counting his cap hit for retirement. They would need to move around 2.5 million to make it happen so as fair as it is for them to be stuck with it, I think it's also fair they get time to do it.

[Idoit40fans]

Part of me thinks he wasn't retiring and the NHL(the league that would enforce the cap hit if he were retired) is the organization asking him to work for them so they have a conflict of interest if they both take him and then force that cap hit.

[Jim]

Part of me thinks he wasn't retiring and the NHL(the league that would enforce the cap hit if he were retired) is the organization asking him to work for them so they have a conflict of interest if they both take him and then force that cap hit.

No conflict there... that is enforcing their own rules. That is not a conflict. The conflict in interest would be hiring him and then breaking their rules by not enforcing the cap hit.

[Idoit40fans]

If the group levying the penalty being the group creating the infraction isnt a conflict of interest, i dont know what is.

[shmenguin]

I don't understand why the league would engage in this to begin with. Were there no there ex players who wear glasses available for the job? What is pronger offering that they felt was needed to the extent where it made up for the shadyness of the arrangement.

There's little effective difference between whether pronger puts himself on ltir every year or does this instead. But still...It was a risky contract and should be carried out - or give other teams the same opportunity to work the system with their old players.

[Sigwolf]

If the group levying the penalty being the group creating the infraction isnt a conflict of interest, i dont know what is.

If the group creating the rules being the group ignoring the violation of those rules to suit their purposes isn't a conflict of interest, I don't know what is.

[The Snapshot]

One of the nastiest stick men in NHL history working on Player Safety - As heard on XM a few days ago - "like OJ becoming a marriage counselor...."

[meow]

One of the nastiest stick men in NHL history working on Player Safety - As heard on XM a few days ago - "like OJ becoming a marriage counselor...."

And that's why you shouldn't listen to NHL on XM

[Jim]

If the group levying the penalty being the group creating the infraction isnt a conflict of interest, i dont know what is.

If the group creating the rules being the group ignoring the violation of those rules to suit their purposes isn't a conflict of interest, I don't know what is.

[stopper40]

I'm wondering here, would say a group of fans have any legal status to sue the league saying that this was a blatant conflict of interest and that since he should either retire and the Flyers take the cap hit or he can't work for the league. Or a team that's in Salary cap hell sue because the league is showing favoritism towards while they can't get any relief under the cap.

[Pavel Bure]

I'm wondering here, would say a group of fans have any legal status to sue the league saying that this was a blatant conflict of interest and that since he should either retire and the Flyers take the cap hit or he can't work for the league. Or a team that's in Salary cap hell sue because the league is showing favoritism towards while they can't get any relief under the cap.

This sounds like something the Canadiens would do.