redwill wrote:
dagny was killed last night. She was Dior Eluchil of Doriath.
Meh, guess I will blow this game up now. I am Fingon, son of Fingolfin
We see a slight color difference here as well.
So, as SDD posited, I think there are definitely 4 factions. The orange and Zaro's green are supposed to form the Union of Maedhros, dagny's green signifies holders of the silmarils, and the red is Morgoth the baddy.
House of Feanor: shad's actual character was a part of this, can unite with Fingolfin House of Fingolfin: Zaro's character, can unite with Feanor Holders of the Silmaril: dagny's character Followers of Morgoth: canaan's character
I'm fairly certain that's what we're dealing with right now, in terms of non-village players.
The goal of my house is to defeat the Enemy. However, that may not be enough to win. I didn't get anything about uniting with another house. I am going by the reds have to have a majority to win and the non-reds have to eliminate the other factions. The villagers win as long as the reds don't I thinkk
If I understand the lore correctly, should the houses of Feanor and Fingolfin unite, they would be the ones leading the charge against Morgoth's forces.
So, theoretically, if the Union of Maedhros were to be formed, I would assume anyone in those factions would become green, as they would be the main force against Morgoth.
I don't really know what would happen with dagny's faction. I would assume the two houses would be "fighting" Morgoth over the Silmarils, but I'm not sure what significance the Silmarils have for this game.
Zarovich wrote:The goal of my house is to defeat the Enemy. However, that may not be enough to win. I didn't get anything about uniting with another house. I am going by the reds have to have a majority to win and the non-reds have to eliminate the other factions. The villagers win as long as the reds don't I thinkk
It is my understanding that the Enemy in question would be Morgoth and his forces (evidenced by canaan's character).
Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
Zarovich wrote:The goal of my house is to defeat the Enemy. However, that may not be enough to win. I didn't get anything about uniting with another house. I am going by the reds have to have a majority to win and the non-reds have to eliminate the other factions. The villagers win as long as the reds don't I thinkk
It is my understanding that the Enemy in question would be Morgoth and his forces (evidenced by canaan's character).
Right, but I really don't know anything about the background except for what I am trying to pick up now. Not knowing what characters are involved really makes it difficult. I'm still not sure about the union of houses but I suppose it is possible. Maybe if Shaf would have been honest about his char and helped us out instead of false claiming, I would be considering the house merge possibility. At this point, I am not sure.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
Zarovich wrote:The goal of my house is to defeat the Enemy. However, that may not be enough to win. I didn't get anything about uniting with another house. I am going by the reds have to have a majority to win and the non-reds have to eliminate the other factions. The villagers win as long as the reds don't I thinkk
It is my understanding that the Enemy in question would be Morgoth and his forces (evidenced by canaan's character).
Right, but I really don't know anything about the background except for what I am trying to pick up now. Not knowing what characters are involved really makes it difficult. I'm still not sure about the union of houses but I suppose it is possible. Maybe if Shaf would have been honest about his char and helped us out instead of false claiming, I would be considering the house merge possibility. At this point, I am not sure.
Zarovich wrote:The goal of my house is to defeat the Enemy. However, that may not be enough to win. I didn't get anything about uniting with another house. I am going by the reds have to have a majority to win and the non-reds have to eliminate the other factions. The villagers win as long as the reds don't I thinkk
It is my understanding that the Enemy in question would be Morgoth and his forces (evidenced by canaan's character).
Right, but I really don't know anything about the background except for what I am trying to pick up now. Not knowing what characters are involved really makes it difficult. I'm still not sure about the union of houses but I suppose it is possible. Maybe if Shaf would have been honest about his char and helped us out instead of false claiming, I would be considering the house merge possibility. At this point, I am not sure.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
This comes across as fishy to me.
That's cool. I just don't want the game derailed over a discussion of which shade of red was used. Was it red or was it red red....looked more like red red to me with a shade of orange.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
This comes across as fishy to me.
That's cool. I just don't want the game derailed over a discussion of which shade of red was used. Was it red or was it red red....looked more like red red to me with a shade of orange.
But, if my theory is correct, it makes a huge difference.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
This comes across as fishy to me.
That's cool. I just don't want the game derailed over a discussion of which shade of red was used. Was it red or was it red red....looked more like red red to me with a shade of orange.
But, if my theory is correct, it makes a huge difference.
I won't deny that at all. As I said before I would hope redwill wouldn't use colors so close together on the scale that this becomes an issue. If he did then bravo to him as it has created a good amount of discussion.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
This comes across as fishy to me.
That's cool. I just don't want the game derailed over a discussion of which shade of red was used. Was it red or was it red red....looked more like red red to me with a shade of orange.
Enough talk has been brought up where if it were just a mere mistake, I'm sure redwill would have set the record straight. His silence on the matter leads me to believe that it was intentional.
redwill doesn't seem like one of those moderate-and-decide-on-game-decisions-as-we-go sort of games moderators.
MRandall25 wrote:If I understand the lore correctly, should the houses of Feanor and Fingolfin unite, they would be the ones leading the charge against Morgoth's forces.
So, theoretically, if the Union of Maedhros were to be formed, I would assume anyone in those factions would become green, as they would be the main force against Morgoth.
I don't really know what would happen with dagny's faction. I would assume the two houses would be "fighting" Morgoth over the Silmarils, but I'm not sure what significance the Silmarils have for this game.
I think there are 3 "good" factions and 1 "bad" faction. The reds want to kill everyone. I don't know 100% anymore what the criteria for 1 of the "good" factions is to win. Definitely have to eliminate the "bad' faction but not sure about the other 2 with this unification stuff. I thought it was simply to eliminate them as well.
PensFanInDC wrote:Personally I think we are taking the color thing WAY too far. I know I have used a few different reds and greens and yellows when playing this game. They never meant anything. I think the same applies here and we are over analyzing it.
This comes across as fishy to me.
That's cool. I just don't want the game derailed over a discussion of which shade of red was used. Was it red or was it red red....looked more like red red to me with a shade of orange.
Enough talk has been brought up where if it were just a mere mistake, I'm sure redwill would have set the record straight. His silence on the matter leads me to believe that it was intentional.
redwill doesn't seem like one of those moderate-and-decide-on-game-decisions-as-we-go sort of games moderators.
I'll admit to thinking the same as PFiDC. Not that MR25's theory couldn't be possible, but there's a a lot more colors redwill could have used to denote different factions.
'color=#FF4000' House of Feanor 'color': shad's actual character was a part of this, can unite with Fingolfin
'color=#00BF00'House of Fingolfin 'color': Zaro's character, can unite with Feanor
'color=#008000'Holders of the Silmaril 'color': dagny's character
'color=#FF0000'Followers of Morgoth 'color': canaan's character
I'm fairly certain that's what we're dealing with right now, in terms of non-village players.
Although looking at where those colors are on the pallet...
I guess I'll wait until the Night write-up to form a solid opinion.
But four factions of four barely leaves any pleebs.
MRandall25 wrote:If I understand the lore correctly, should the houses of Feanor and Fingolfin unite, they would be the ones leading the charge against Morgoth's forces.
So, theoretically, if the Union of Maedhros were to be formed, I would assume anyone in those factions would become green, as they would be the main force against Morgoth.
I don't really know what would happen with dagny's faction. I would assume the two houses would be "fighting" Morgoth over the Silmarils, but I'm not sure what significance the Silmarils have for this game.
I think there are 3 "good" factions and 1 "bad" faction. The reds want to kill everyone. I don't know 100% anymore what the criteria for 1 of the "good" factions is to win. Definitely have to eliminate the "bad' faction but not sure about the other 2 with this unification stuff. I thought it was simply to eliminate them as well.
I think there's a significance to Dagny's faction (the holders of the Silmarils), because why even have them in the game otherwise?
Now, I have no clue what the Silmarils signify in terms of this game, but if one of the holders is in this game, then I think they definitely mean something.
