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The Official Olympic Hockey Thread
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Austria's team and their phone auto-corrected names:
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The US will beat the Czechs in a wild game, then lose to a Latvia team riding high off an upset win over Canada.
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The US women outshot Sweden 29-1 in the 1st. Welp, it's only the semi-finals.
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TJ Oshie has already won the gold medal in the girlfriend category.
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Yes, yes, he has.
Everyone see this?
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Oshie and USA forward Gigi Marvin went to the same small high school in MN. Go Warroad.
Everyone see this?
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Oshie and USA forward Gigi Marvin went to the same small high school in MN. Go Warroad.
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Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/olympics/mor ... z2talG5mmC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Hockey a hit
Pittsburgh's 9.8 local rating for the U.S.-Russia game Saturday was No. 1 in the country, according to NBC Sports Network, which carried it. That means about 294,000 regional viewers watched the game.
Boston was next with a 9.2 rating, then Buffalo at 8.5.
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Pretty impressive for a city that didn't know hockey existed before 2005.
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70-9 in the game.Gaucho wrote:The US women outshot Sweden 29-1 in the 1st. Welp, it's only the semi-finals.
Oh em jee.
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I'm still holding out hope that the NHL adopts the 3-point format and get rid of the imbalance in game values (regulation games worth 2 points, OT games worth 3 points). Their tiebreaker (ROW) already makes OT wins more valuable than SO wins.pcm wrote:I like that there's no fighting.
I also like the scoring format, that rewards teams for winning in regulation.
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I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
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i'm sure someone could go through last season and show the difference, but I certainly don't have the time nor patience to do that.Gaucho wrote:I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
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Taking a quick look at last years standings and overtime win leaders, I believe the Rangers may have been the 7/8 seed instead of the 6 and the Penguins would have won the Presidents Trophy instead of Chicago.count2infinity wrote:i'm sure someone could go through last season and show the difference, but I certainly don't have the time nor patience to do that.Gaucho wrote:I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
Right now I believe it would cause Columbus to be tied for the last Wild Card spot in the East and for Columbus/Detroit to be down only 1 point to Toronto instead of 6.
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The other thing that needs to be looked at though is OTW. Those don't show up in the regular standings as they'd be worth less than a regulation win.pittsports87 wrote:Taking a quick look at last years standings and overtime win leaders, I believe the Rangers may have been the 7/8 seed instead of the 6 and the Penguins would have won the Presidents Trophy instead of Chicago.count2infinity wrote:i'm sure someone could go through last season and show the difference, but I certainly don't have the time nor patience to do that.Gaucho wrote:I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
Right now I believe it would cause Columbus to be tied for the last Wild Card spot in the East and for Columbus/Detroit to be down only 1 point to Toronto instead of 6.
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That is what I mostly looked at, that along with the standings. PuckDaddy did a sample back in December about 30 games into the season on how the standings would change:count2infinity wrote:The other thing that needs to be looked at though is OTW. Those don't show up in the regular standings as they'd be worth less than a regulation win.pittsports87 wrote:Taking a quick look at last years standings and overtime win leaders, I believe the Rangers may have been the 7/8 seed instead of the 6 and the Penguins would have won the Presidents Trophy instead of Chicago.count2infinity wrote:i'm sure someone could go through last season and show the difference, but I certainly don't have the time nor patience to do that.Gaucho wrote:I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
Right now I believe it would cause Columbus to be tied for the last Wild Card spot in the East and for Columbus/Detroit to be down only 1 point to Toronto instead of 6.
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It'd actually had a negative impact on what the NHL wants. The whole "OT Loss" thing was meant to make the standings tighter and create more exciting playoff races. Here's a comparison of the standings:Gaucho wrote:I'm curious, any data available that'd prove this would make much of a difference?
Current System:
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EASTERN CONFERENCE
Team GP W L OT P
1 Pittsburgh 58 40 15 3 83
2 Boston 57 37 16 4 78
3 Tampa Bay 58 33 20 5 71
4 Montreal 59 32 21 6 70
5 Toronto 60 32 22 6 70
6 Ny Rangers 59 32 24 3 67
7 Philadelphia 59 30 23 6 66
8 Detroit 58 26 20 12 64
9 Columbus 58 29 24 5 63
10 Washington 59 27 23 9 63
11 Ottawa 59 26 22 11 63
12 Carolina 57 26 22 9 61
13 New Jersey 59 24 22 13 61
14 Ny Islanders 60 22 30 8 52
15 Florida 58 22 29 7 51
16 Buffalo 57 15 34 8 38
WESTERN CONFERENCE
Team GP W L OT P
1 Anaheim 60 41 14 5 87
2 St Louis 57 39 12 6 84
3 Chicago 60 35 11 14 84
4 San Jose 59 37 16 6 80
5 Colorado 58 37 16 5 79
6 Minnesota 59 31 21 7 69
7 Los Angeles 59 31 22 6 68
8 Dallas 58 27 21 10 64
9 Phoenix 58 27 21 10 64
10 Vancouver 60 27 24 9 63
11 Winnipeg 60 28 26 6 62
12 Nashville 59 25 24 10 60
13 Calgary 58 22 29 7 51
14 Edmonton 60 20 33 7 47
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EASTERN CONFERENCE
Team GP W OTW OTL L P
1 Pittsburgh 58 33 7 3 15 116
2 Boston 57 32 5 4 16 110
3 Montreal 59 25 7 6 21 95
4 Ny Rangers 59 27 5 3 24 94
5 Tampa Bay 58 22 11 5 20 93
6 Philadelphia 59 26 4 6 23 92
7 Toronto 60 21 11 6 22 91
8 Columbus 58 24 5 5 24 87
9 Detroit 58 20 6 12 20 84
10 Carolina 57 22 4 9 22 83
11 Ottawa 59 20 6 11 22 83
12 Washington 59 15 12 9 23 78
13 New Jersey 59 16 8 13 22 77
14 Florida 58 15 7 7 29 66
15 Ny Islanders 60 14 8 8 30 66
16 Buffalo 57 7 8 8 34 45
WESTERN CONFERENCE
Team GP W OTW OTL L P
1 Anaheim 60 34 7 5 14 121
2 Chicago 60 30 5 14 11 114
3 St Louis 57 29 10 6 12 113
4 San Jose 59 24 13 6 16 104
5 Colorado 58 28 9 5 16 107
6 Minnesota 59 23 8 7 21 92
7 Los Angeles 59 21 10 6 22 89
8 Dallas 58 23 4 10 21 87
9 Phoenix 58 20 7 10 21 84
10 Nashville 59 22 3 10 24 82
11 Winnipeg 60 19 9 6 26 81
12 Vancouver 60 18 9 9 24 81
13 Calgary 58 12 10 7 29 63
14 Edmonton 60 15 5 7 33 62
Basically, the top teams are going to stay at the top but there may be a shuffling amongst the bottom teams. And it becomes so much harder to close the gap as the season goes on because those magical "3 point games" we see now are a non-factor since all games are worth 3 points.
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You could see more teams though pull their goalie in a tie game late in the 3rd to try to get three points instead of just 2 as the season winds down.tfrizz wrote:Basically, the top teams are going to stay at the top but there may be a shuffling amongst the bottom teams. And it becomes so much harder to close the gap as the season goes on because those magical "3 point games" we see now are a non-factor since all games are worth 3 points.
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Why would they pull their goalie and risk LOSING in regulation? That doesn't seem cost effective at all...DelPen wrote:You could see more teams though pull their goalie in a tie game late in the 3rd to try to get three points instead of just 2 as the season winds down.tfrizz wrote:Basically, the top teams are going to stay at the top but there may be a shuffling amongst the bottom teams. And it becomes so much harder to close the gap as the season goes on because those magical "3 point games" we see now are a non-factor since all games are worth 3 points.
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If you need points that badly, you'd do it. This doesn't seem like something that would happen until someone mathematically needs 3 points every game.
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redwill wrote:70-9 in the game.Gaucho wrote:The US women outshot Sweden 29-1 in the 1st. Welp, it's only the semi-finals.
Oh em jee.
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Right now it doesn't happen because winning in regulation has no real benefit over winning in OT or a shootout, so coaches will defend a tie game to play for a tie and ensure they don't lose one point. However, as DelPen said, if there are a potential 3 points on the table, then you're going to see coaches start considering it.MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote:Why would they pull their goalie and risk LOSING in regulation? That doesn't seem cost effective at all...DelPen wrote:You could see more teams though pull their goalie in a tie game late in the 3rd to try to get three points instead of just 2 as the season winds down.tfrizz wrote:Basically, the top teams are going to stay at the top but there may be a shuffling amongst the bottom teams. And it becomes so much harder to close the gap as the season goes on because those magical "3 point games" we see now are a non-factor since all games are worth 3 points.
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If you just can't get enough Olympic hockey talk, there are a few decent podcasts out today: Hockey Night in Canada, ESPN Hockey Today, Marek vs. Wyshynski, Hockey Central. Bill Guerin is on the last one.
Bunch of guys north of the border seem worried about a Switzerland match-up in the quarters.
Bunch of guys north of the border seem worried about a Switzerland match-up in the quarters.
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I feel neutral about a possible match up between the Swiss and Canadians but if it happens the Swiss don't want a run and gun game with the Canadians and stay out of that war
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But are the Swiss neutral?
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They do know their way around the neutral zone.
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Only if they're really desperate I'd think. I mean, you'd have to be really all but eliminated to even consider it.tfrizz wrote:Right now it doesn't happen because winning in regulation has no real benefit over winning in OT or a shootout, so coaches will defend a tie game to play for a tie and ensure they don't lose one point. However, as DelPen said, if there are a potential 3 points on the table, then you're going to see coaches start considering it.MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote:Why would they pull their goalie and risk LOSING in regulation? That doesn't seem cost effective at all...DelPen wrote:You could see more teams though pull their goalie in a tie game late in the 3rd to try to get three points instead of just 2 as the season winds down.tfrizz wrote:Basically, the top teams are going to stay at the top but there may be a shuffling amongst the bottom teams. And it becomes so much harder to close the gap as the season goes on because those magical "3 point games" we see now are a non-factor since all games are worth 3 points.