The Walking Dead

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Re: The Walking Dead

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just caught up to the Snake Plisken episode. I liked it, but am a little turned off. They made the Gov. out to be such a terrible person and he did some truly horrendous things, I do not like them trying to make him human again. This episode started making him likable and based on his past history, I don't want to have any positive feelings about him....
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Re: The Walking Dead

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eddysnake wrote:just caught up to the Snake Plisken episode. I liked it, but am a little turned off. They made the Gov. out to be such a terrible person and he did some truly horrendous things, I do not like them trying to make him human again. This episode started making him likable and based on his past history, I don't want to have any positive feelings about him....
Every great villain should be a great hero from their POV. Or at least their actions should have understandable motives. Examples: King Kong, Cypher from the Matrix, Magneto.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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nocera wrote:
eddysnake wrote:just caught up to the Snake Plisken episode. I liked it, but am a little turned off. They made the Gov. out to be such a terrible person and he did some truly horrendous things, I do not like them trying to make him human again. This episode started making him likable and based on his past history, I don't want to have any positive feelings about him....
Every great villain should be a great hero from their POV. Or at least their actions should have understandable motives. Examples: King Kong, Cypher from the Matrix, Magneto.
The big problem for me is that they showed him gunning down like 30 people for absolutely no reason whatsoever... at that point, not much to salvage character-wise, IMO.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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The governor can't be saved. It doesn't work that way. If he ever get's redeemed, that's the end of the show for me right there.

My guess is that he'll end up dying to save a group of people and the reaction will be "thanks, dude. Not sad that you're dead or anything, though."
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Re: The Walking Dead

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So much for the redemption angle.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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columbia wrote:So much for the redemption angle.
Aaaaand we're right back where we were at the end of last season. It's almost like this has been a giant waste of time.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Is the next big battle supposed to be more dramatic?
I guess they could kill off a few people, but they could have let the virus do that.

Maybe this is the conduit for leaving the prison. Whoop?
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Anything happen after the Gov was eying up Rick and Carl and drew his pistol? My dvr cut off at that point.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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As long as they include the tank with the governor/prison battle. I'll be set. Enjoyed the way it transpired in the comics. That being said, I feel more now that we were jipped a year of the show with this year actually being the gov. angle.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Malkamaniac wrote:As long as they include the tank with the governor/prison battle. I'll be set. Enjoyed the way it transpired in the comics. That being said, I feel more now that we were jipped a year of the show with this year actually being the gov. angle.
I think that Herschel replaces Tyrese in the comics where...
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He gets captured and then the governor threatens to execute him with Michonne's sword and Ty tells them to not let him in. It would be a fitting end for Herschel to go out that way. Him being out there with Michonne sets this up nicely.
It's a shame the nice army guy didn't find the prison and join that group before Martinez found them.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Now The Governor has a tank ho ho ho
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Hockeynut! wrote:Anything happen after the Gov was eying up Rick and Carl and drew his pistol? My dvr cut off at that point.
Anyone?
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The gov could also see Michonne and Hershel. He pulled his gun out cause he could of shot her but he didn't then it ended
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Re: The Walking Dead

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SolidSnake wrote:The gov could also see Michonne and Hershel. He pulled his gun out cause he could of shot her but he didn't then it ended
*yet*
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Thanks!
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Re: The Walking Dead

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"The Walking Governor"
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Re: The Walking Dead

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DropEmJayBird wrote:"The Walking Governor"
Better than "The Stagnant Prison"
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Re: The Walking Dead

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I thought this week's episode was pretty good again, when considered in isolation. However, in the big picture, it just brings us back full circle to part way through season 3. I was hoping that either the infection or the fence weakness would cause the prison crew to hit the open road for new adventures. Instead, it looks like we're going to get another prison siege.

By the way, what ever happened to issue of someone in the prison feeding rats to the zombies, causing them to congregate in that one area? Did we ever find out what was going on with that, or we just supposed to assume it was that one girl?
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Re: The Walking Dead

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largegarlic wrote:I thought this week's episode was pretty good again, when considered in isolation. However, in the big picture, it just brings us back full circle to part way through season 3. I was hoping that either the infection or the fence weakness would cause the prison crew to hit the open road for new adventures. Instead, it looks like we're going to get another prison siege.
I guess this sums up my thoughts pretty well. Although perhaps this time we will get a satisfying outcome to said siege. I have a feeling that the tank is going to spell the end for the prison one way or another.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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One thing from the comics they can now capture faithfully:
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The people from Woodbury were never attacked by Rick's group like in the show. Michonne slaughtered a bunch of zombies in the fight which made a lot of residents mad because they wanted to just see fights and then saw what she did to the governor, cutting his arm off, neutering him and popping an eye out, after he brutally raped her instead of taking her best friend away which is a dumb, dumb motive in the TV show.

So the people of Woodbury love the governor and rally to invade the prison. AFTER they get in they realize these people were not a threat at all after one of them shoots Lori in the back while holding the baby. I hope that happens with Beth and Judith because having a baby on the run won't work and it will have a huge impact on the audience.

Every person who attacked the prison last season had a good reason. They could be viewed as terrorists since Rick's camp did attack them and 99% of the town had no idea why.

Now, the governor can make up whatever crap he wants to get this new camp to attack and then they can turn on him after they kill a girl and a baby.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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I like the prison in terms of story location as it lends itself well to a an aliens/x-files-esque type of suspense. That said, it it getting less and less plausible that the group would neglect to seal off unknown sections of the prison and reinforce the outside perimeter. Getting a bulldozer and digging out a dry moat would do it.

I thought the funniest scene in the series so far was when Andrea was being pursued by the governor. She runs into the woods as the SUV passes and backs up against a tree. A zombie stealthily creeps up on her from behind despite the dry leaves all around, and as that zombie is attacking her, another one gets her from the front- right where she had been looking- as another one made it all the way across the road and into the woods in the 3 seconds since the SUV passed by. It reminded me of the Montey Python Holy Grail scene where the guy crossed a large field but came out of nowhere to surprise the castle guards.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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The gov is a bad bad man.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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So nobody is watching the Mid Season finale?
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Re: The Walking Dead

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This is how it should have went down last year. But the whole invading Woodbury to rescue glen, Maggie and Darryl while being seen killing residents ruined that.
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Re: The Walking Dead

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Well this certainly didn't disappoint.