66 in at #1.
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I'm not sure I see a case for this, personally. Of the "Big 7" goalies, I think Dryden deserves the #7 spot. Short career and, I hate to put too much stock in a single tournament, but his inability to adapt to the Soviet style of play in the 1972 Summit Series nearly made him the most hated man in Canada. I'm all ears though, as always...Rylan wrote:Dryden > Brodeur
Vezina (as voted by the GMs, sorted in descending): 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 5th (that's 13 top-5 finishes...Roy had 10, Hasek had 7 for comparison). Clearly demonstrated adaptability across multiple eras (started in the trailing days of firewagon hockey - grew up learning in a very open QMJHL league, through the C&G era, across the next lockout into whatever era we're in now. Not only adaptability, but dominance vs. his peers.Rylan wrote:1st team All-Star 5x
2nd team All-Star 1x
5x Vezina Award Winner
6x Stanley Cup Champion
1x Conn Smythe in 1971 (only player in NHL history to win Conn Smythe before being a rookie, much less ROY)
ROY in 1972
His 4 shutouts in 12 wins in the 76-77 playoffs is impressive. He only lost 89 times in his career (regular season and playoffs) and still almost ended up with more ties than that (74). Now those are team stats referencing one of the greatest teams in hockey history. But, as we have seen in Pittsburgh, and historically, a goalie is the linchpin of dynastic success and Dryden was successful.
And now I am tired of showing Dryden incessant love, why should Brodeur be rated above Dryden?
Excluding Gordie Howe (who had been retired before Dryden entered the league and coincidentally returned when Dryden retired) and Bobby Hull, how many legit top scoring stars did the NHL lose to the WHA?mikey287 wrote: Dryden faced very little goalie competition and played on clearly the most dominant team of the era...a team that made the rules for the Expansion Draft and it showed. Not only did have to face little in the way of goalie competition, but he faced a weaker field in general due to the fact that over-zealous, over-expansion sapped the league (minus Boston and Montreal) of talented teams. Parity was off in the distance still when Dryden played. He got to face all those expansion teams with Larry Robinson, Serge Savard and Guy Lapointe in front of him...not to mention how much of the league's talent was diluted by the WHA...a league that existed almost exclusively during Dryden's career.
Staggy wrote:Not sure where to put this but I figured I'd throw it here since it's history of hockey related.
I haven't really seen many highlights of Bobby Orr and not nearly enough of Gretzky, so recently I've been looking for some videos of the two. For anyone who's seen "The Best Ever: Mario Lemieux" video, I was thinking of something like that. Mikey, or anyone else for that matter, do you know of any good dvds or documentaries of the the two that I can buy online?
I've found "The Best of Bobby Orr" and am probably going to purchase that. Having a bit harder time finding a quality Gretzky one with good reviews. So anybody that knows of any good videos on the two, or even some other hockey legends, please suggest them!