Nash to NYR

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:57 pm

Kraftster wrote:Yeah, I think I'd prefer Clowe/Pavelski/Demers/1st if that was the offer.

All of them were offerred? I'd rather have any one of those 3 and a first.

Post by **canaan** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:57 pm

update: from Portzline: TSN has Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and 1st to #CBJ. Told #CBJ are sending a 3rd-round pick and a minor-league defenseman to the Rangers.

Kraftster · Post by **Kraftster** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:05 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
Kraftster wrote:Yeah, I think I'd prefer Clowe/Pavelski/Demers/1st if that was the offer.
All of them were offerred? I'd rather have any one of those 3 and a first.

The first three were reported, I Can't remember if a pick was included or not.

Post by **The Snapshot** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:09 pm

Will Rick Nash block shots?

Post by **columbia** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:23 pm

I don't get the Dubinsky slagging. He's a reasonably good forward and actually gives a **** on every shift.
I'd love to see him on the Pens, someday.

Staggy · Post by **Staggy** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:30 pm

Lol, Columbus went from asking for Skinner, Couture, McDonagh, etc. to getting this package.

Kraftster · Post by **Kraftster** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:33 pm

columbia wrote:I don't get the Dubinsky slagging. He's a reasonably good forward and actually gives a **** on every shift.
I'd love to see him on the Pens, someday.

I like Dubi a lot too.

Biggest problem with this deal seems to be Columbus' failure to get a higher ceiling guy than they did. From a trade in a vacuum standpoint, the value isn't the worst, but I think Columbus needed to get more for the franchise's sake.

Idoit40fans · Post by **Idoit40fans** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:35 pm

Kraftster wrote:
columbia wrote:I don't get the Dubinsky slagging. He's a reasonably good forward and actually gives a **** on every shift.
I'd love to see him on the Pens, someday.
I like Dubi a lot too.

Biggest problem with this deal seems to be Columbus' failure to get a higher ceiling guy than they did. From a trade in a vacuum standpoint, the value isn't the worst, but I think Columbus needed to get more for the franchise's sake.

He's a good player, but I hate him. He's gonna get better too, but shouldn't be moving to the first line. Its very possible that he'll be playing there next time there is an NHL season though.

darkstar57 · Post by **darkstar57** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:17 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
Kraftster wrote:
columbia wrote:I don't get the Dubinsky slagging. He's a reasonably good forward and actually gives a **** on every shift.
I'd love to see him on the Pens, someday.
I like Dubi a lot too.

Biggest problem with this deal seems to be Columbus' failure to get a higher ceiling guy than they did. From a trade in a vacuum standpoint, the value isn't the worst, but I think Columbus needed to get more for the franchise's sake.
He's a good player, but I hate him. He's gonna get better too, but shouldn't be moving to the first line. Its very possible that he'll be playing there next time there is an NHL season though.

living in NY area i watch rangers play alot Dubinsky was a big part of the rangers, he might not be a 1st liner but he is a heart and soul guy and a warrior. He did whatever Torts asked him to do.

marek · Post by **marek** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:20 pm

Dubinsky going the other way was/is a shocker to me... the guy meant a lot to that team! Just wow.
The rangers really do enjoy paying for and acquiring NAMES.

mikey287 · Post by **mikey287** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:22 pm

marek wrote:Dubinsky going the other way was/is a shocker to me... the guy meant a lot to that team! Just wow.
The rangers really do enjoy paying for and acquiring NAMES.

Dubi was always a part of discussion. Not the first team he was offered to, AIUI.

marek · Post by **marek** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:25 pm

mikey287 wrote:
marek wrote:Dubinsky going the other way was/is a shocker to me... the guy meant a lot to that team! Just wow.
The rangers really do enjoy paying for and acquiring NAMES.
Dubi was always a part of discussion. Not the first team he was offered to, AIUI.

I know but i just thought it was "talk"... I really thought Nash was going to be a shark... so... where does Ryan end up now? I'm thinking Philly

mikey287 · Post by **mikey287** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:27 pm

Ryan to Philly for Weber.

bhaw · Post by **bhaw** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:28 pm

mikey287 wrote:Ryan to Philly for Weber.

Then Visnovsky back to Anahiem?

Post by **Kaizer** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:59 pm

I'm glad dubinsky gets to skate along the trail of tears.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:20 pm

dubinsky being sent to hockey hell makes this trade palatable

Post by KG » Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:54 pm

That's gotta to be a tough sell for Howson to make on his STH's. Trade the franchise for a couple of top 9 forwards, prospect and a pick in the 20's...ouch. Talk about overplaying your hand Howson...

CP...knock knock...

André · Post by **André** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:01 pm

Good move by the Rangers. They're not looking bad at all.

Post by **pfim** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:28 pm

Meh. Think Nash is fairly overrated by a lot of people, and Columbus probably got what they could. I mean, good player, not sure he's as good as his cap hit. Sucks for their PR, but they received a few decent pieces in return.

bhaw · Post by **bhaw** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:41 pm

pfim wrote:Meh. Think Nash is fairly overrated by a lot of people, and Columbus probably got what they could. I mean, good player, not sure he's as good as his cap hit. Sucks for their PR, but they received a few decent pieces in return.

I think you could argue their PR would not be good if they kept Nash, as you would have a lot of fan saying "Why don't we trade this piece of trash who doesn't even want to play here?"

jimjom · Post by **jimjom** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:57 pm

I don't think it's that bad for CLB. Nash was disinterested and would have pouted his way thru the season. I still think he's obviously top line for the Rangers but I don't think he can get them to the SCF. Once Torts rips into him publicly a few times he'll wish he was back in Ohio.

brwi · Post by **brwi** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:37 pm

bhaw wrote:
pfim wrote:Meh. Think Nash is fairly overrated by a lot of people, and Columbus probably got what they could. I mean, good player, not sure he's as good as his cap hit. Sucks for their PR, but they received a few decent pieces in return.
I think you could argue their PR would not be good if they kept Nash, as you would have a lot of fan saying "Why don't we trade this piece of trash who doesn't even want to play here?"

Pretty true. Nash showed what a low quality person he is when he got busted for being a complete liar and CBJ didn't have a lot of leverage once the fans turned on him(for good reason). The whole "I can't believe they are discussing trading ME!" after he had requested a trade ranks as pretty much a fan-killer.

Columbus got what they could and also unloaded a bad contract and a player who didn't want to be there to go along with the fact the fans/management didn't want him there either. Not a great haul but not bad either.

tfrizz · Post by **tfrizz** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:47 pm

So... the Atlantic Division has gone from the toughest division in hockey to THE toughest division in hockey... and the Central Division has become the Southeast of the West.

Post by **shmenguin** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:04 pm

If Columbus was getting better offers at the trade deadline, then I dunno...how bout you wait to make a deal until this year's deadline? What was the rush? Just to get on with life? Well, the puzzle pieces aren't exactly much clearer now than they were yesterday.

Streaks House · Post by **Streaks House** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:24 pm

tfrizz wrote:So... the Atlantic Division has gone from the toughest division in hockey to THE toughest division in hockey... and the Central Division has become the Southeast of the West.

It has become an arms race.

Look at the top 3 forwards and top 2 defensemen for EVERY team in the division. Some serious talent. Even the Isles.

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