Jerry Sandusky and Related Trials

[MWB]

Three of the counts dropped:

Judge John Cleland told jurors that all three counts pertain to "alleged victim 4," while the defense further petitioned to have all counts related to "alleged victim 8" dismissed as well.
Cleland said one count of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse duplicated another charge. Two other counts -- one of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and another of aggravated indecent assault -- were not supported by testimony and the evidence presented, he said.

[canaan]

With that many charges, the prosecution doesnt have the want nor worry to try to establish a strong case for all of them. the jury knowing that there are that many charges is the biggest thing, in my opinion. the dude is going away for the rest of his life. i have no doubts in that.

[Kraftster]

I always wonder if that ends up looking worse for the defense. Obviously there has to be an undeniable lack of evidence for the judge to dismiss charges without allowing the charges to go to the jury, but you wonder if in the jurors minds the judge is almost saying, "I think there is evidence supporting all of these other charges," even though his denial on the others does not mean that.

[Pitt87]

Real honest question. Are there people here wanting to see Sandusky go free because it releases Penn State from the grips of bad news? If Sandusky is found guilty, it's a whole heap of nothing good for the school, and reading through this I get the feeling that a few PSU alums/fans want Sandusky to go free so it doesn't damage Penn State in a detrimental way.

I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING. After reading some of the posts about how 'devastating' it has been, I am starting to think about who Penn Staters believe been devastated.

[canaan]

i think there have been some gross misinterpretations of peoples posts in this thread and viewing it as some ardent psu stepfording and i dont believe that to be the case.

[shafnutz05]

Real honest question. Are there people here wanting to see Sandusky go free because it releases Penn State from the grips of bad news? If Sandusky is found guilty, it's a whole heap of nothing good for the school, and reading through this I get the feeling that a few PSU alums/fans want Sandusky to go free so it doesn't damage Penn State in a detrimental way.

I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING. After reading some of the posts about how 'devastating' it has been, I am starting to think about who Penn Staters believe been devastated.

sigh....who in this thread has honestly made you wonder that? Everything I've read in here indicates that just about every "Penn Stater" in this thread hopes that Sandusky rots in prison for the rest of his life for what he did to the children. I have just pointed out the fact that a "not guilty" verdict would damage the university's and community's reputation beyond repair.

And I'm a little sick and tired of being reminded of who was hurt in this situation. Thanks, I am fully capable of talking about how different outcomes will affect the university and being aware that kids were "devastated" in this situation at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive.

The mentality seems to be: 100% OF THE TALK NEEDS TO BE ABOUT THE VICTIMS OR YOU CLEARLY CARE MORE ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS UNIVERSITY THAN THE KIDS! PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!

[MWB]

i think there have been some gross misinterpretations of peoples posts in this thread and viewing it as some ardent psu stepfording and i dont believe that to be the case.

Tend to agree.

[columbia]

If he is convicted, I hope they hold him in custody until sentencing and he never sees the light of day again.

[shafnutz05]

If he is convicted, I hope they hold him in custody until sentencing and he never sees the light of day again.

Agree, and suspect that will be the case.

[canaan]

If he is convicted, I hope they hold him in custody until sentencing and he never sees the light of day again.

thats what i heard would be the case if/when he is found guilty.

[shafnutz05]

Yeah he would be a pretty obvious suicide risk if he were to be released until his sentence started.

[eddysnake]

when are we supposed to hear the ruling?

[llipgh2]

when are we supposed to hear the ruling?

The jury just got their instructions a few hours ago. They have to decide on all remaining counts (47 or 48. I know 1 count was dismissed early and then 3 today). It could take some time.

[slappybrown]

I always wonder if that ends up looking worse for the defense. Obviously there has to be an undeniable lack of evidence for the judge to dismiss charges without allowing the charges to go to the jury, but you wonder if in the jurors minds the judge is almost saying, "I think there is evidence supporting all of these other charges," even though his denial on the others does not mean that.

You give jurors way too much credit. And you're supposed to be the elitist.

[60sixx]

I have a bad, bad feeling about this. Like Casey Anthony all over again. I hope to God I'm wrong.

[steve784]

Real honest question. Are there people here wanting to see Sandusky go free because it releases Penn State from the grips of bad news? If Sandusky is found guilty, it's a whole heap of nothing good for the school, and reading through this I get the feeling that a few PSU alums/fans want Sandusky to go free so it doesn't damage Penn State in a detrimental way.

Mother of God. Seriously? Sometimes the anti-PSU sentiment on this board is mind-boggling.

[rasbatch]

I got no shortage of Penn State hate, but I think most PSU people want to see justice done.
My prediction is he gets convicted on many of the counts and it's a short deliberation 2 days tops.

[Malkamaniac]

Real honest question. Are there people here wanting to see Sandusky go free because it releases Penn State from the grips of bad news? If Sandusky is found guilty, it's a whole heap of nothing good for the school, and reading through this I get the feeling that a few PSU alums/fans want Sandusky to go free so it doesn't damage Penn State in a detrimental way.

Mother of God. Seriously? Sometimes the anti-PSU sentiment on this board is mind-boggling.

Wha, I'm not anti PSU at all in this case.

[Rocco]

If he gets convicted of just one count, he's looking at an extended jail sentence, and it is highly unlikely he survives a long time due to his age.

[steve784]

Ohhhhhh my:

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[MWB]

Wow, I don't get the timing on that one.

[KennyTheKangaroo]

Wow, I don't get the timing on that one.

its like its straight out of the wwe

[canaan]

Dottie's complicity in this whole debacle is wretched

[MWB]

Dottie's complicity in this whole debacle is wretched

It would seem. I wonder if she'll ever face any charges. I guess the adopted son's story will have something to do with that.

[columbia]

Shocking, but not that surprising.
He's a monster.