shafnutz05 wrote:So why can't we just kill redwill today, let thehammer die, and just kill THG tomorrow?
Does hammer die if we don't kill thg?
Allegedly, but does it matter? If he dies, we will know that THG is ostensibly red. I'd rather kill redwill today. That way, we get the answers to both the redwill question (especially in light of SDD's postmortem revelation), and also get the answer to this scenario. Kill two bird with one stone. If TH24 was telling the truth, just kill THG tomorrow. No harm, no foul.
shafnutz05 wrote:So why can't we just kill redwill today, let thehammer die, and just kill THG tomorrow?
Does hammer die if we don't kill thg?
Allegedly, but does it matter? If he dies, we will know that THG is ostensibly red. I'd rather kill redwill today. That way, we get the answers to both the redwill question (especially in light of SDD's postmortem revelation), and also get the answer to this scenario. Kill two bird with one stone. If TH24 was telling the truth, just kill THG tomorrow. No harm, no foul.
shafnutz05 wrote:Except you're not a "known townie"
Well, yeah that's true. Shrug.
Aside from my naked claims, following my suggestion kills THG - shows the existence of the purple role. It may show you that I joined the town, it may now. But at the very least, you can cross-reference the existence of the purple role with the write up in which I executed Rel's kill while THG executed the Reds kill. I think and I hope this is enough to get you to believe that I become part of the town once the purple thing is done and THG would have become part of the Reds.
shafnutz05 wrote:Except you're not a "known townie"
Well, yeah that's true. Shrug.
Aside from my naked claims, following my suggestion kills THG - shows the existence of the purple role. It may show you that I joined the town, it may now. But at the very least, you can cross-reference the existence of the purple role with the write up in which I executed Rel's kill while THG executed the Reds kill. I think and I hope this is enough to get you to believe that I become part of the town once the purple thing is done and THG would have become part of the Reds.
Your suggestion is at loggerheads with your proposal that the town should only be worried about reds. When I, ostensibly, suggested the same thing that shaf has a couple pages ago, you perceived as a being a red talking. In reality, I was trying to say "if we think we have a red here, lets not get sidetracked by these independents." Which is what you advised that we should do. By going forward with a redwill kill (or whoever else), we are taking a crack at finding a red, while assuring that one of two independents (who we have some questions about) will die. The vig could take out thg then or we could vote him tomorrow.
shafnutz05 wrote:Except you're not a "known townie"
Well, yeah that's true. Shrug.
Aside from my naked claims, following my suggestion kills THG - shows the existence of the purple role. It may show you that I joined the town, it may now. But at the very least, you can cross-reference the existence of the purple role with the write up in which I executed Rel's kill while THG executed the Reds kill. I think and I hope this is enough to get you to believe that I become part of the town once the purple thing is done and THG would have become part of the Reds.
I'm guessing the reds don't know who you are, and it could be coincedence that's how the kill went.
I'm starting to think the easiest way, and the best way for the village is to kill redwill, let you die, kill Krafster tonight, and then kill thg tomorrow. That answers 4 questions in a span of a day and a half. One of you have to be red IMO as well.
We're not independent - we're pink - and we become green/red after today. Your argument is basically let's take out someone that might be a red and in the process create another red. My story is utterly consistent with the write up, you eliminate two reds and gain a green in one foul swoop. You have to cross-reference my assertion with the write-up, though, so I admit that is tough. Also, I didn't realize you suggested the same thing as Shaf, or at least you didn't articulate it the same way. It has a solid basis, I guess.
shafnutz05 wrote:Except you're not a "known townie"
Well, yeah that's true. Shrug.
Aside from my naked claims, following my suggestion kills THG - shows the existence of the purple role. It may show you that I joined the town, it may now. But at the very least, you can cross-reference the existence of the purple role with the write up in which I executed Rel's kill while THG executed the Reds kill. I think and I hope this is enough to get you to believe that I become part of the town once the purple thing is done and THG would have become part of the Reds.
I'm guessing the reds don't know who you are, and it could be coincedence that's how the kill went.
That's exactly what happened. But in that coincidence (both Purples shot at on the same night) we were able to see that I am the good Purple and THG is the bad Purple.
TheHammer24 wrote:That's exactly what happened. But in that coincidence (both Purples shot at on the same night) we were able to see that I am the good Purple and THG is the bad Purple.
I'd guess the reds wouldn't know who thg was either. So I don't know how that proves anything.
TheHammer24 wrote:We're not independent - we're pink - and we become green/red after today. Your argument is basically let's take out someone that might be a red and in the process create another red. My story is utterly consistent with the write up, you eliminate two reds and gain a green in one foul swoop. You have to cross-reference my assertion with the write-up, though, so I admit that is tough. Also, I didn't realize you suggested the same thing as Shaf, or at least you didn't articulate it the same way. It has a solid basis, I guess.
So you made up a story consistent with the write up? Shocking. I believe you for the most part, up until the part about you becoming good. Possible, yes. However, too shady to rely on and if it's not confirmed you're green you'll constantly be suspicious.
TheHammer24 wrote:That's exactly what happened. But in that coincidence (both Purples shot at on the same night) we were able to see that I am the good Purple and THG is the bad Purple.
I'd guess the reds wouldn't know who thg was either. So I don't know how that proves anything.
Well, I understand his thinking. He's saying that since rel admitted to shooting thg, and rel's kill was "carried through" Hammer, it is suggestive of him being a good purple. The problem with the thinking is that we have a third night shooter in this game, so there is no basis for knowing whether it was a red kill or a third party kill that was aiming at Hammer (which was carried out by thg in the write up).
TheHammer24 wrote:That's exactly what happened. But in that coincidence (both Purples shot at on the same night) we were able to see that I am the good Purple and THG is the bad Purple.
I'd guess the reds wouldn't know who thg was either. So I don't know how that proves anything.
Well, I understand his thinking. He's saying that since rel admitted to shooting thg, and rel's kill was "carried through" Hammer, it is suggestive of him being a good purple. The problem with the thinking is that we have a third night shooter in this game, so there is no basis for knowing whether it was a red kill or a third party kill that was aiming at Hammer (which was carried out by thg in the write up).
I'm Green not Purple after today. Or I'm dead, which is looking increasingly likely. I didn't make the story up consistent with the write up. In fact, you can see that after Rel admitted he shot at THG, I put all the pieces together.
This role blows, it absolutely sucks. You need to catch lightning in a bottle to get it to work.
In any event, I'm not invincible after tonight, I am Green JOAT with kill, see, protect, and role block. I made the invicible because I knew the reds had to have killed me and I figured they'd believe it. I guess if you want to take a chance and get JOAT powers to compensate for everything you've lost, you can. I also can kill Redwill tonight if you want. That will accomplish the same thing Shad is suggesting by lynching me.
