relantel wrote:Krafster is not purple. All I know of IE is she claims blue.
So then why would you suggest that IE isn't a good vote if the only thing to go on is that she claims not to be blue?
Blindly voting for a blue player isn't a good vote, when the goal is to find the British and the Unionists. Now, whether the blue claim is true or not - I tend to think it is but I'm not 100% on that.
I've come out of this phase much more suspcious of troy, thg and MWB than going in, even though MWB seemed to be the only one who could read.
For the rest of you, this disaster of a day that features the outing of most of the greens continues. I attempted to avoid the direct outing but it seems some have left me no choice. I am the seer.
The following information may not be current, if a recruit has taken place. But c2i and benny were blue. Bhaw assumes Kraftster is blue, and he may well be. There was no fourth night as the night phase began too late/ended too early last night/this morning.
Then bhaw supposes I and Kraftster are red. Tends to make me think he is...
throw bhaw in the bog.
I'm throwing out options. My vote is on IE, but think whatever you will. You did a horrendous job. You outed yourself to save a "claimed" blue in IE and whatever Kraftster is. Neither of which have had more the 2 or 3 votes out of 9.
You are wasting a vote on me because my game ends after this day phase regardless. I'm blue.
Kraftster wrote:I think it was only in a "weird" way after he tried to do it casually at first. If people actually read casual comments and utilized them without calling attention to them (like I recall happening in the old days), it wouldn't have come to this.
I agree, but once called out (even if it was by a red trying to out him), he didn't provide ANYTHING substantial. Again, here is what he told us:
Zaro claimed green (we all knew that)
NAN is the angle (NAN claimed that)
you aren't red
IE claims blue (which we all saw)
And now with all the discussion he doesn't want to add to it.
I'm not saying to ax relantel, but if he IS the seer, he outed himself and didn't provide us with anything.
well..we know that c2i and benny are blue.
Timing of the posts. I was typing when rel posted.
Kraftster wrote:I think it was only in a "weird" way after he tried to do it casually at first. If people actually read casual comments and utilized them without calling attention to them (like I recall happening in the old days), it wouldn't have come to this.
I agree, but once called out (even if it was by a red trying to out him), he didn't provide ANYTHING substantial. Again, here is what he told us:
Zaro claimed green (we all knew that)
NAN is the angle (NAN claimed that)
you aren't red
IE claims blue (which we all saw)
And now with all the discussion he doesn't want to add to it.
I'm not saying to ax relantel, but if he IS the seer, he outed himself and didn't provide us with anything.
well..we know that c2i and benny are blue.
Timing of the posts. I was typing when rel posted.
thehockeyguru wrote:So in a nutshell Rel outted himself as the Seer with no heat on him to clear Kraftster who is a blue?
With a perceptive angel, there's a lot of value in subtly trying to get votes off of someone. You then watch in the aftermath of a casual post who acknowledges it/disregards it, etc. As the angel, I know I watch for things like that so that I can put my save to good use (saving oneself as angel is really only worthwhile to keep yourself alive so you can find someone actually worth saving at a later time).
thehockeyguru wrote:So in a nutshell Rel outted himself as the Seer with no heat on him to clear Kraftster who is a blue?
With a perceptive angel, there's a lot of value in subtly trying to get votes off of someone. You then watch in the aftermath of a casual post who acknowledges it/disregards it, etc. As the angel, I know I watch for things like that so that I can put my save to good use (saving oneself as angel is really only worthwhile to keep yourself alive so you can find someone actually worth saving at a later time).
It wasn't so subtle, it called a lot of attention to it.
thehockeyguru wrote:So in a nutshell Rel outted himself as the Seer with no heat on him to clear Kraftster who is a blue?
With a perceptive angel, there's a lot of value in subtly trying to get votes off of someone. You then watch in the aftermath of a casual post who acknowledges it/disregards it, etc. As the angel, I know I watch for things like that so that I can put my save to good use (saving oneself as angel is really only worthwhile to keep yourself alive so you can find someone actually worth saving at a later time).
It wasn't so subtle, it called a lot of attention to it.
Originally it was, when he said Kraftster was a bad vote on day 1 I believe.
thehockeyguru wrote:So in a nutshell Rel outted himself as the Seer with no heat on him to clear Kraftster who is a blue?
With a perceptive angel, there's a lot of value in subtly trying to get votes off of someone. You then watch in the aftermath of a casual post who acknowledges it/disregards it, etc. As the angel, I know I watch for things like that so that I can put my save to good use (saving oneself as angel is really only worthwhile to keep yourself alive so you can find someone actually worth saving at a later time).
It wasn't so subtle, it called a lot of attention to it.
The original remark was made yesterday and I don't think there was any attention called to it then. (did it?)
Today its gotten attention, but thats inevitable when it happens a second time. The key is making the most out of the attention it received and trying to pick out a red from it.
To throw out another theory and someone to watch going forward...
columbia has taken a couple posts this round to state that he fully trusts "cleared" people.
He was talking about using Kraftster to trust rel and now he's saying he totally trusts benny's judgment. I understand that they are allegedly cleared right now, but usually using that wording to point align yourself and gain trust with cleared people is a sign of a red.
I'm not 100% on it, but his posts today have stood out, mainly because he keeps talking about 100% trusting people. Just stood out as weird...
Since my blue claim didn't work, not much else I can say. I'd look at IE going forward, possibly columbia. THG could be bad based on how much crap he's been throwing around and voting for basically everyone.
it crossed my mind that relantel was the seer yesterday...then when he did it again to deflect kraftster i was convinced he wasnt the seer (after nan was angel and zaro the vig, kraft wouldn't have had a major role).
Wrong assumption on my part....i really don't agree with that play at all.
thehockeyguru wrote:So in a nutshell Rel outted himself as the Seer with no heat on him to clear Kraftster who is a blue?
With a perceptive angel, there's a lot of value in subtly trying to get votes off of someone. You then watch in the aftermath of a casual post who acknowledges it/disregards it, etc. As the angel, I know I watch for things like that so that I can put my save to good use (saving oneself as angel is really only worthwhile to keep yourself alive so you can find someone actually worth saving at a later time).
It wasn't so subtle, it called a lot of attention to it.
The original remark was made yesterday and I don't think there was any attention called to it then. (did it?)
Today its gotten attention, but thats inevitable when it happens a second time. The key is making the most out of the attention it received and trying to pick out a red from it.
The problem is, relantel states a lot of people are bad votes during the first day or two because he doesn't believe in bandwagons. I pretty much ignore those comments. Could be my bad becauase maybe I base some of my judgement off of what people do in previous games.
Usually subtle comments are revealed until something else is revealed too when it doesn't affect you and you are in the know.
I'm still scratching my head as to why it was such a big deal to save a blue.
bhaw wrote:To throw out another theory and someone to watch going forward...
columbia has taken a couple posts this round to state that he fully trusts "cleared" people.
He was talking about using Kraftster to trust rel and now he's saying he totally trusts benny's judgment. I understand that they are allegedly cleared right now, but usually using that wording to point align yourself and gain trust with cleared people is a sign of a red.
