Jagr Watch 2017

[tonysoprano]

My gut feeling about today...

Shero signs a legit top6 in the opening minutes of FA (Ryder, Vrbata), then waits to see if Kennedy/Jagr sign, so he's not left waiting for Jagr's decision.

I'm not sure I'd classify either as a "legit" top 6, but I hear what you're saying.

[IanMoran]

The line up is significantly worse if they don't fill in those 2 holes.
Despite what everyone thinks, Shero never "hands" a spot to a rookie. They have to impress / beat other people out to make it. Nick Johnson / Tangradi will not be "handed spots" (unless injuries force it)

[newarenanow]

What I mean is I don't think the offer TK gets is gonna change much, just like with Jagr. He wants to see today what he can get. I'd say he decides sometime tomorrow

I think it will be a tough decision for TK. And the Pens offer won't change much (realitively speaking), but I think they can add $2-300K to the deal, which is a decent amount for a contract a player like TK is signing.

If TK waits until tomorrow, I honestly think Shero will move on, and if something better comes up, or something that fits within their budget, he will make a move for it, because TK will be getting much better offers.

TK needs to decide if he wants to stay in Pgh for less money, or go elsewhere for more. He knows he is going to get more.

Shero may say "I'll give you until 1 or 2 today to see your offers, but you have to make a decision by then or else our offer may not be here when you get back". TK will be done today IMO, and most likely closer to noon.

Then again, I could be completely wrong and talking out of my ass!

[tonysoprano]

Dreger said the other team was...wait for it... St. Louis.

If he wants to win, I don't care how much they offered him, they're not in the mix at all then.

[SlipperyRockJoe]

"Czech This Out, Jagr Returns" IS AMAZING

Thanks!

[Idoit40fans]

The line up is significantly worse if they don't fill in those 2 holes.
Despite what everyone thinks, Shero never "hands" a spot to a rookie. They have to impress / beat other people out to make it. Nick Johnson / Tangradi will not be "handed spots" (unless injuries force it)

Does anyone think that he hands a spot to a rookie? A rookie cannot break the lineup without multiple injuries, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

[sil]

The line up is significantly worse if they don't fill in those 2 holes.
Despite what everyone thinks, Shero never "hands" a spot to a rookie. They have to impress / beat other people out to make it. Nick Johnson / Tangradi will not be "handed spots" (unless injuries force it)

NJ will need to pass through waivers, so I see him staying up as the 14th F. Jeffrey is NHL ready, but won't be physically ready until November, so look for Tangradi (or Craig?) to begin in the NHL again in his stead. ET can then pass to WB/S without waivers...same with Vitale for when we may need him.

There are two forward spots to fill regardless. Shero can't wait till 2 or 3 for a Jagr decision. Not a whole lot in the FA pool, but Shero may have a few guys he's keyed on. If Jagr doesn't sign before noon, I'd be shocked if he wears a pens jersey next season. This is most definitely the case with Kennedy.

[IanMoran]

The line up is significantly worse if they don't fill in those 2 holes.
Despite what everyone thinks, Shero never "hands" a spot to a rookie. They have to impress / beat other people out to make it. Nick Johnson / Tangradi will not be "handed spots" (unless injuries force it)

Does anyone think that he hands a spot to a rookie? A rookie cannot break the lineup without multiple injuries, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

That seems to be the sentiment by some, people are saying maybe Shero will sign no one (leaving the spot to those 2), I've also seen many lineups including those 2.

[sil]

Then again, I could be completely wrong and talking out of my ass!

Same here. A lot of pople on here do, but only a small percentage will ever admit to it.

[ulf]

I'm pretty sure jeffrey earned his spot.

[IanMoran]

The line up is significantly worse if they don't fill in those 2 holes.
Despite what everyone thinks, Shero never "hands" a spot to a rookie. They have to impress / beat other people out to make it. Nick Johnson / Tangradi will not be "handed spots" (unless injuries force it)

NJ will need to pass through waivers, so I see him staying up as the 14th F. Jeffrey is NHL ready, but won't be physically ready until November, so look for Tangradi (or Craig?) to begin in the NHL again in his stead. ET can then pass to WB/S without waivers...same with Vitale for when we may need him.

There are two forward spots to fill regardless. Shero can't wait till 2 or 3 for a Jagr decision. Not a whole lot in the FA pool, but Shero may have a few guys he's keyed on. If Jagr doesn't sign before noon, I'd be shocked if he wears a pens jersey next season. This is most definitely the case with Kennedy.

I didn't know that about NJ. Jeffrey is NHL ready and I think he has proven himself last year / I'd pencil him in. I don't see ET / Craig / Vitale as penciled in... the only way one of them makes it is if they do a Letestu / REALLY impresses in preseason / start of regular season.

[Lesky]

Anybody remember the pictures from last night?

The names on them have been changed

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Pretty fishy...

Let's hope Jagr returns!

[IanMoran]

In my opinion the line up is

Kunitz - Sid- Dupuis
Neal - Geno - ?
Cooke - Staal- ?
Adams - Jeffrey - Asham
X Letestu

They will fill in those 2 ?'s through Jagr, TK, or other UFA (I don't see Nick Johnson, Craig, Vitale just filling in those spots)

[sil]

I see Nick Johnson getting Chris Conner treatment this year. Stays up all year but gets scratched a lot.

[IanMoran]

I see Nick Johnson getting Chris Conner treatment this year. Stays up all year but gets scratched a lot.

Possibly, but Conner was only up here because of injuries, it was just the injuries lasted ALL YEAR LONG. Hopefully that doesn't happen again lol

[IronDukes37]

......

[Tico Rick]

Rossi just tweeted:

Aside from #jagrwatch and Kennedy, not expecting much from #Pens today. Hearing they don't want to play this market.

If that's the case, maybe they don't cut off talks with Jagr at noon. Maybe talks will go on indefinitely.

[sil]

In my opinion the line up is

Kunitz - Sid- Dupuis
Neal - Geno - ?
Cooke - Staal- ?
Adams - Jeffrey - Asham
X Letestu

They will fill in those 2 ?'s through Jagr, TK, or other UFA (I don't see Nick Johnson, Craig, Vitale just filling in those spots)

Just remember Jeffrey's knee will most likely keep him out of the opening night roster...and depending on total cap, Shero will probably keep 14F on the roster. That leaves a total of 4? for your roster above.

[Gaucho]

Never expected RS to be very active on the FA market anyway.

[Malkamaniac]

Well the market is a joke, and Shero won't bite on it. Sounds good to me.

[sil]

I see Nick Johnson getting Chris Conner treatment this year. Stays up all year but gets scratched a lot.

Possibly, but Conner was only up here because of injuries, it was just the injuries lasted ALL YEAR LONG. Hopefully that doesn't happen again lol

But the point being, they didn't send him back down at all (even when the team was healthy in December) because he could've been taken away on waivers.

[Lesky]

RobRossi_Trib Rob Rossi
Aside from #jagrwatch and Kennedy, not expecting much from #Pens today. Hearing they don't want to play this market.

Jagr watch to go reach 10 days?

[AlexPKeaton]

The market sucks and I do not expect the pens to sign anyone other than tk/jagr.

[IanMoran]

In my opinion the line up is

Kunitz - Sid- Dupuis
Neal - Geno - ?
Cooke - Staal- ?
Adams - Jeffrey - Asham
X Letestu

They will fill in those 2 ?'s through Jagr, TK, or other UFA (I don't see Nick Johnson, Craig, Vitale just filling in those spots)

Just remember Jeffrey's knee will most likely keep him out of the opening night roster...and depending on total cap, Shero will probably keep 14F on the roster. That leaves a total of 4? for your roster above.

Letestu takes Jeffrey's spot / call up one of WBS guys as 13th forward until Jeffrey's healthy. Still leaves only 2 ?'s (but it seems very likely Shero will sign a depth / extremely cheap signing that no one saw coming before training camp, he usually does)

[IanMoran]

The market sucks and I do not expect the pens to sign anyone other than tk/jagr.

Hypothetical, if they miss out on both, do you really think Pens will go into the season with 5 mill in cap space?