History Mafia -- GAME THREAD

[Zarovich]

Bhaw,

Why would you say who you were going to check? The mafia KNOWS who is red. Why give them advanced info!?!? They would probably block you anyways if they could and they did, apparently

I don't know how much stock I can take in what you say, since it was VERY apparent from the writeup for night 3 that the mafia blocked Jaysmiter and killed him. Meanwhile, you claim to have been blocked the same night as well. We only have 2 good RP's left. Seems to me they are some combo of vig/cop/nurse. The third was converted. If you are good and we don't have a backup docter ie nurse and a role blocker instead, then that player is full of fail. I don't think so, I think we only had the vig/cop/nurse left and one is for the mafia now.

You are also starting to play the way shaftnutz (I'm pretty sure it was him) played after he was converted in NHL Wars. You are getting all over different people at the drop of a hat.




I will also address the "confusion" caused by my statement :Maybe I'm the cop and I know redwill is red

Turns out I WAS RIGHT and redwill was bad!!! Then bhaw comes out later in the game as cop and says THE SAME THING!! Only since we follow through with his vote and not mine earlier, he looks good, and I become highly suspicious. wtf... Had I been red, I throw my own member under the bus, the real seer would check me, see I'm red as well and then the mafia loses another member. TERRIBLE strategy. NAN outs himself, I out redwill as a psuedo cop and the real cop pegs me the next day.... Explain that too me.

I want to vote bhaw off so bad, but I'm concerned the mafia will let the village do it if he wasn't the convert. I am going to let the mafia kill him at night if he wasn't converted at take everything he says with a grain of salt here on out until he dies, or I die and it doesn't matter I don't know at this point if he was converted or not. I'm going back to someone who I voted for previously

lynch npv

[mac5155]

fwiw i'll just make the deadline 3PM monday.. any objections?

[Letang Is The Truth]

i object

[Kicksave]

i object

[Twisted Wrister]

do it.

[count2infinity]

wow...ya leave for the weekend, and lots goes down. we've really got 2 possibilities here...

1) bhaw has put on one of the best acts that i've ever seen in these games by claiming to be the town cop and actually being the mafia cop messing with us.

2) bhaw actually is the cop and the mafia didn't kill him so that we raise suspicion and knock him off so that they don't have to do it.

i'm hoping that it's #2.

reading through i don't think we could take out zarovich... he was really pushing for redwill before we knew that redwill was bad. he even went as far as to say he was the cop (even though he said it jokingly) and he knew redwill was bad.

i think that TWC is still a pretty valid choice. it's possible he is the godfather and came back blue.

for those that think my voting was weird, i agree. i said numerous times that i wanted to be the last vote onto people so that if that person is the bomb, then i'd be the one to die. i'm a regular villager, so i'd rather it be me than any of our RP's or someone that has been picking out baddies (the only two that i've really thought were bad were npv and corvi, so we really have yet to see if they're bad, but it's looking more and more like they're not).

[bhaw]

c2i.... make sure you notice that twc is not blue. I didn't get anything last night.

here is the other thing that bothers me with zaro. If he's just a regular villager, why would he throw the cop thing out there when it's a distinct possibility that the real cop would come out? Seems like a stupid thing to do just as a "joke." I knew redwill was bad already, so I just let him go, but had I not researched redwill to that point, I would have had to have tried to start a vote against him, and mafia would have seen that.

For me, it's twc or redwill this round. No vote is not an option this late in the game.

[bhaw]

sorry... twc or zaro... not redwill (for obvious reasons)

[bhaw]

i can research the other tonight and hope I'm protected.

[count2infinity]

New info:

twc is blue

did you say something after this that i missed to say TWC isn't blue???

[count2infinity]

New info:

twc is blue

did you say something after this that i missed to say TWC isn't blue???

nevermind... i was just skimming the first time i went through the last few pages. i found it.

[count2infinity]

ok...reading through again, i'm torn between TWC and TL. they are both highly suspicious of bhaw despite the fact that he's been dead on so far. there definitely is the possibility that he is bad, but if he is, then this is one of the boldest moves i've ever seen by a mafia member, not only outing one of his own but also risking the possibility of the real seer investigating bhaw and outing his true role. i really think that twc is our best option at the moment.

lynch twc

[Twisted Wrister]

anyone know what night the person was converted on?

[bhaw]

anyone know what night the person was converted on?

I think 4.

[count2infinity]

anyone know what night the person was converted on?

I think 4.

day 4 eh? hmmm... and you were blocked night 1 & 3? and their cop was killed day 3? this makes me rethink some things...

unlynch twc.

[Zarovich]

c2i.... make sure you notice that twc is not blue. I didn't get anything last night.

here is the other thing that bothers me with zaro. If he's just a regular villager, why would he throw the cop thing out there when it's a distinct possibility that the real cop would come out? Seems like a stupid thing to do just as a "joke." I knew redwill was bad already, so I just let him go, but had I not researched redwill to that point, I would have had to have tried to start a vote against him, and mafia would have seen that.

For me, it's twc or redwill this round. No vote is not an option this late in the game.

I started voting for him before you did. Him getting voted off then would not have led the mafia to you at all, they would have killed me. You say they are blocking you so they already know you are the cop and are just keeping you around so the village votes you off? I hope the vig shoots you tonight.

I'm as sure npv is bad as much as I was redwill earlier. That's my vote.

[Zarovich]

anyone know what night the person was converted on?

I think 4.

day 4 eh? hmmm... and you were blocked night 1 & 3? and their cop was killed day 3? this makes me rethink some things...

unlynch twc.

Jaysmiter was blocked night 3 and killed by the mafia night 3. Says so in the writeup. Bhaw wasn't blocked.

[bhaw]

c2i.... make sure you notice that twc is not blue. I didn't get anything last night.

here is the other thing that bothers me with zaro. If he's just a regular villager, why would he throw the cop thing out there when it's a distinct possibility that the real cop would come out? Seems like a stupid thing to do just as a "joke." I knew redwill was bad already, so I just let him go, but had I not researched redwill to that point, I would have had to have tried to start a vote against him, and mafia would have seen that.

For me, it's twc or redwill this round. No vote is not an option this late in the game.

I started voting for him before you did. Him getting voted off then would not have led the mafia to you at all, they would have killed me. You say they are blocking you so they already know you are the cop and are just keeping you around so the village votes you off? I hope the vig shoots you tonight.

I'm as sure npv is bad as much as I was redwill earlier. That's my vote.

I never claimed they knew anything. I actually said it makes more sense that a good person blocked me on night 3 due to the nan/sdm thing. You and twc are making a lot of stuff up that I "said."

[bhaw]

c2i.... make sure you notice that twc is not blue. I didn't get anything last night.

here is the other thing that bothers me with zaro. If he's just a regular villager, why would he throw the cop thing out there when it's a distinct possibility that the real cop would come out? Seems like a stupid thing to do just as a "joke." I knew redwill was bad already, so I just let him go, but had I not researched redwill to that point, I would have had to have tried to start a vote against him, and mafia would have seen that.

For me, it's twc or redwill this round. No vote is not an option this late in the game.

I started voting for him before you did. Him getting voted off then would not have led the mafia to you at all, they would have killed me. You say they are blocking you so they already know you are the cop and are just keeping you around so the village votes you off? I hope the vig shoots you tonight.

I'm as sure npv is bad as much as I was redwill earlier. That's my vote.

That doesn't answer my question in the least. Why, if you are blue, would you imply that you are the cop when pretending to be the cop typically leads to the real one to come out? Did you not foresee that as a possibility? You didn't know redwill was a bad guy unless you have a good power that allows you to do so. If you are, indeed blue, how could you not have seen that as potentially causing the real cop to come out of hiding to discredit your claim that you "might" be the cop?

[bhaw]

anyone know what night the person was converted on?

I think 4.

day 4 eh? hmmm... and you were blocked night 1 & 3? and their cop was killed day 3? this makes me rethink some things...

unlynch twc.

night 4 is when they were converted. I've admitted I don't know how me AND jaysmiter was blocked (I've stated that the only way possible is 2 role blockers were in play at the time), but believe me when I say that if I were making this crap up, I wouldn't have missed that very important detail.

[Zarovich]

c2i.... make sure you notice that twc is not blue. I didn't get anything last night.

here is the other thing that bothers me with zaro. If he's just a regular villager, why would he throw the cop thing out there when it's a distinct possibility that the real cop would come out? Seems like a stupid thing to do just as a "joke." I knew redwill was bad already, so I just let him go, but had I not researched redwill to that point, I would have had to have tried to start a vote against him, and mafia would have seen that.

For me, it's twc or redwill this round. No vote is not an option this late in the game.

I started voting for him before you did. Him getting voted off then would not have led the mafia to you at all, they would have killed me. You say they are blocking you so they already know you are the cop and are just keeping you around so the village votes you off? I hope the vig shoots you tonight.

I'm as sure npv is bad as much as I was redwill earlier. That's my vote.

That doesn't answer my question in the least. Why, if you are blue, would you imply that you are the cop when pretending to be the cop typically leads to the real one to come out? Did you not foresee that as a possibility? You didn't know redwill was a bad guy unless you have a good power that allows you to do so. If you are, indeed blue, how could you not have seen that as potentially causing the real cop to come out of hiding to discredit your claim that you "might" be the cop?

OMFG is this your first rodeo? I said MAYBE I was and used .

If the real cop comes out after that, that's not my fault. No heat was on anyone so it wasn't like I was trying to pull votes form anyone. If anything, the real cop lays low and let's the mafia whack me and then they get confused on who the real cop is. That tactic worked GREAT once before.

[bhaw]

OMFG is this your first rodeo? I said MAYBE I was and used .

If the real cop comes out after that, that's not my fault. No heat was on anyone so it wasn't like I was trying to pull votes form anyone. If anything, the real cop lays low and let's the mafia whack me and then they get confused on who the real cop is. That tactic worked GREAT once before.

Oh, i get it, so if I do this:

Maybe I'm actually mafia

I'm totally clear? Makes sense... glad I don't have to worry about people being suspicious of me anymore.

So, just like the question that's on me... why hasn't the mafia whacked you? If I'm not the cop like you say, that means you COULD be the cop, right? So wouldn't it have made sense for the mafia to whack you just in case? Yet you're still alive... hmmm....

Also... so let's say the cop doesn't come out b/c of your emoticons, you're still forcing them to waste a night to research you, which you obviously did foresee, since you mentioned it. I didn't take a second thought until you basically set today up perfectly by saying that you're sure redwill would turn up red, then the mafia won't kill me, and twc will end up blue. You seem to know what a lot of people are going to turn up. Being that I am the cop, the only other people who know what everyone is would be the mafia.

[bhaw]

So youre telling me they mulled everyone who could help?

I think we have a sherrif, nurse, vig and joat left

LOL... you even acknowledged early on that there is likely a 2nd person with role blocking abilities. Now there's not?

[Corvidae]

Oh, i get it, so if I do this:

Maybe I'm actually mafia

I'm totally clear? Makes sense... glad I don't have to worry about people being suspicious of me anymore.

So, just like the question that's on me... why hasn't the mafia whacked you? If I'm not the cop like you say, that means you COULD be the cop, right? So wouldn't it have made sense for the mafia to whack you just in case? Yet you're still alive... hmmm....

Also... so let's say the cop doesn't come out b/c of your emoticons, you're still forcing them to waste a night to research you, which you obviously did foresee, since you mentioned it. I didn't take a second thought until you basically set today up perfectly by saying that you're sure redwill would turn up red, then the mafia won't kill me, and twc will end up blue. You seem to know what a lot of people are going to turn up. Being that I am the cop, the only other people who know what everyone is would be the mafia.

That's why I've been up his butt for the last few days.

[bhaw]

Oh, i get it, so if I do this:

Maybe I'm actually mafia

I'm totally clear? Makes sense... glad I don't have to worry about people being suspicious of me anymore.

So, just like the question that's on me... why hasn't the mafia whacked you? If I'm not the cop like you say, that means you COULD be the cop, right? So wouldn't it have made sense for the mafia to whack you just in case? Yet you're still alive... hmmm....

Also... so let's say the cop doesn't come out b/c of your emoticons, you're still forcing them to waste a night to research you, which you obviously did foresee, since you mentioned it. I didn't take a second thought until you basically set today up perfectly by saying that you're sure redwill would turn up red, then the mafia won't kill me, and twc will end up blue. You seem to know what a lot of people are going to turn up. Being that I am the cop, the only other people who know what everyone is would be the mafia.

That's why I've been up his butt for the last few days.

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