tfrizz happened to point out that during the first night's write-up, the mods said something about "the hobo" stumbling across some jelly repellent. Not "a hobo" or "a bum" etc...it seems pretty clear that the bad guys went after Senka the first night, and as the angel, he protected himself. Then during day 1, PFiDC posted his random.org list that just happened to have Senka as the one it selected. tfrizz pointed this out and voted for PFiDC and he got crazed real quick...then juice and I jumped on board. PFiDC further went on to vote for both tfrizz and juice.
Here's the thing...it makes sense to try and go after the person you know as the angel if you are a bad guy. He can protect himself at night, why not try and get the village...and why not try to use the "trusty" random.org method. I'm going to take a guess and say that angel couldn't protect the same person back to back, which is how he died night two (either that or Senka tried protecting someone else, figuring the baddies wouldn't go for him again...which, with him, is highly possible).
actually now after reading that again, do we really think the mods would specifically say "the hobo" if that's who the jelly's would have targeted unsuccessfully that night? The jelly's would have had no way of knowing if who they targeted was the hobo or the person the hobo was protecting I'd like to think the mods wouldn't have turned around and let something out like that.
Well, c'mon...how many angels protect anyone but themselves that first night?
I mean, as tfrizz said, this could all just be a major coincidence. In that case, oh well...we f'd up and we get a villager. At least it's something to try and go on.
I'm also fully aware at how much suspicion will be shot my way if this isn't something. I'm willing to take that risk.
tfrizz happened to point out that during the first night's write-up, the mods said something about "the hobo" stumbling across some jelly repellent. Not "a hobo" or "a bum" etc...it seems pretty clear that the bad guys went after Senka the first night, and as the angel, he protected himself. Then during day 1, PFiDC posted his random.org list that just happened to have Senka as the one it selected. tfrizz pointed this out and voted for PFiDC and he got crazed real quick...then juice and I jumped on board. PFiDC further went on to vote for both tfrizz and juice.
Here's the thing...it makes sense to try and go after the person you know as the angel if you are a bad guy. He can protect himself at night, why not try and get the village...and why not try to use the "trusty" random.org method. I'm going to take a guess and say that angel couldn't protect the same person back to back, which is how he died night two (either that or Senka tried protecting someone else, figuring the baddies wouldn't go for him again...which, with him, is highly possible).
actually now after reading that again, do we really think the mods would specifically say "the hobo" if that's who the jelly's would have targeted unsuccessfully that night? The jelly's would have had no way of knowing if who they targeted was the hobo or the person the hobo was protecting I'd like to think the mods wouldn't have turned around and let something out like that.
It was night 2, which logically would mean Senka was unprotected. That least us to the assumption that either 1) Senka had an object of some sort to go back a day; or, 2) there was a clause in the role where the first night kill will go back a day.
I don't think Senka was killed at random; NAN might be a different story, it's hard to say because he's a popular target.
IF this does turn out to be true, I know exactly who to go for next. I'm not making the mistake that canaan made last game either...I will gladly say who, with evidence, before the day is over.
tfrizz happened to point out that during the first night's write-up, the mods said something about "the hobo" stumbling across some jelly repellent. Not "a hobo" or "a bum" etc...it seems pretty clear that the bad guys went after Senka the first night, and as the angel, he protected himself. Then during day 1, PFiDC posted his random.org list that just happened to have Senka as the one it selected. tfrizz pointed this out and voted for PFiDC and he got crazed real quick...then juice and I jumped on board. PFiDC further went on to vote for both tfrizz and juice.
Here's the thing...it makes sense to try and go after the person you know as the angel if you are a bad guy. He can protect himself at night, why not try and get the village...and why not try to use the "trusty" random.org method. I'm going to take a guess and say that angel couldn't protect the same person back to back, which is how he died night two (either that or Senka tried protecting someone else, figuring the baddies wouldn't go for him again...which, with him, is highly possible).
I still think Dagny is bad, but this is more solid evidence than I have for my vote now. this explains what tfrizz was saying but maybe just a little more clear (at least for me) release Dagny Net PFIDC
* IrishEyes released Hockeynut!; netted npv708
* shafnutz05 released sdm5055; netted npv708
* Letang Is The Truth released tfrizz; netted npv708
* jwienand released sdm5055; netted npv708
* Juice released PensFanInDC; netted npv708
* Letang Is The Truth released npv708
* slappybrown released npv708
* crayz released npv708
* Kicksave released npv708
* Hockeynut! released npv708
* PensFanInDC released tfrizz; netted Juice
* Malkamaniac released npv708
* Juice released npv708
* wallflower released npv708; netted thehockeyguru
* beerman released npv708
* tfrizz released PensFanInDC; netted Pavel Bure
* jaysmiter released PensFanInDC; netted dagny
* relantel released PensFanInDC
* jaysmiter released dagny; netted PensFanInDC
* tfrizz released Pavel Bure; netted PensFanInDC
* slappybrown released dagny; netted PensFanInDC
tfrizz wrote:I don't think Senka was killed at random
nor do i. it was either 1.) the baddies knew his role and wanted it squashed or 2.) baddies (single or plural) that are veterans who fears teh senkz00rs.
tfrizz wrote:I don't think Senka was killed at random
nor do i. it was either 1.) the baddies knew his role and wanted it squashed or 2.) baddies (single or plural) that are veterans who fears teh senkz00rs.
Senka was gonna get whacked because he intimated on day one he was an RP when the random.org wagon started on him.
IrishEyes wrote:I'm not comfortable with a PFIDC vote. Of course, if he gets netted and he turns out to be a bad guy, then oh noez, everyone will be after me!
this was Juice's response to the original Senka vote...
Juice wrote:
Think this through my friends.
Random.org'in someone is only good when you have nothing else to go on (see: a typical day 1.)
But this is not a typical day 1. Someone in this game has already given more of a reason than a random lynch to get rid of them.
Not only are we going to net someone on a random.org, we are going to net a good player, and we are going to ignore the chance to get rid of someone who has demonstrated the inability to think through one of the proven basic game concepts.
How many times, as a baddie, when a game is over, do people have to say "something was said at night that made us change what we were going to do" before we realize how bad it is to talk at night?
I'm not comfortable with a PFIDC vote. Of course, if he gets netted and he turns out to be a bad guy, then oh noez, everyone will be after me!
I'm going with this.
net pavel
It's interesting that this is at least the second time you've said something like this.
Just pointing it out.
(and, no, you weren't who I was referring to)
Because that's how it always works. I abstain from a vote, or don't go with the flow, and it "casts suspicion on" me. In most of the games I've played, whether I was good or bad, this is what has happened. It annoys me, but I understand it's the way of the game. This one was more sarcasm than anything else.
tfrizz wrote:I don't think Senka was killed at random
nor do i. it was either 1.) the baddies knew his role and wanted it squashed or 2.) baddies (single or plural) that are veterans who fears teh senkz00rs.
Senka was gonna get whacked because he intimated on day one he was an RP when the random.org wagon started on him.
The wagon was started on him by PFIDC, correct? That's why it would be a sneaky way for the baddies to get a goodie RP (that they had seen the night before) killed immediately and then be able to blame it on random.org and "bad luck". We've seen a few times I think now on day 1 when someone hasn't even been able to get a word in, and they have already been random.org'ed to death (see: Twisted Wrister). Clever move if that's what they were trying to do, but the bandwagon didn't roar quite quick enough.
canaan wrote:nor do i. it was either 1.) the baddies knew his role and wanted it squashed or 2.) baddies (single or plural) that are veterans who fears teh senkz00rs.
Senka was gonna get whacked because he intimated on day one he was an RP when the random.org wagon started on him.
The wagon was started on him by PFIDC, correct? That's why it would be a sneaky way for the baddies to get a goodie RP (that they had seen the night before) killed immediately and then be able to blame it on random.org and "bad luck". We've seen a few times I think now on day 1 when someone hasn't even been able to get a word in, and they have already been random.org'ed to death (see: Twisted Wrister). Clever move if that's what they were trying to do, but the bandwagon didn't roar quite quick enough.
In addition to this, guess who veered the bandwagon away from Mr. Senka. (Hint: ME).
