**Nintendo Mafia - Game Thread**

[MWB]

So maybe they tried to kill Juice on night one?

[newarenanow]

I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?

According to the site, Juice is unkillable at night, so he has no fear from the bosses which makes him a great hero ally. Since I have already outed him, he has no chance to win. We can try to use him to our advantage or take him out now.

Why didn't you say this before??????

Now I need to think.

[Troy Loney]

I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?

According to the site, Juice is unkillable at night, so he has no fear from the bosses which makes him a great hero ally. Since I have already outed him, he has no chance to win. We can try to use him to our advantage or take him out now.

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

[Troy Loney]

So maybe they tried to kill Juice on night one?

that sounds a lot more reasonable than trying to kill npv on night one.

[sdm5055]

soooo I have been in an ISO audit (which went well zero non conformances) yesterday and today and have been MIA and I tried to read through this and I am way confused on whats going on here... everyone has a role?

i picked up we dont know the ratio thing but this is uber confusing

currently from what I can tell we are at a juice and zaro

juice is suppsoedly some renegage work alone type that kills everyone?
Zaro is supposedly a seer who investigated juice?

this correct?

[crayz]

I don't think we can risk it with Juice. If he is wrong, we know zaro lied. If he is right and we don't get him, tonight he takes out zaro and we lose our seer?

I don't see the benefit of Juice stabbing in the dark each night possibly hurting the town more.

delete juice

[redwill]

Juice - 10 (nan, redwill, Troy Loney, MWB, mac5155, beerman, slappybrown, the wicked child, Azkar, crayz)
MWB - 3 (npv, Azkar, dagny)

[redwill]

We can't do better than answer a few questions this day, IMO.

[MWB]

Juice - 10 (nan, redwill, Troy Loney, MWB, mac5155, beerman, slappybrown, the wicked child, Azkar, crayz)
MWB - 3 (npv, Azkar, dagny)

You have Azkar twice, he switched off of me.

[Troy Loney]

Juice - 10 (nan, redwill, Troy Loney, MWB, mac5155, beerman, slappybrown, the wicked child, Azkar, crayz)
MWB - 3 (npv, Azkar, dagny)

[MWB]

soooo I have been in an ISO audit (which went well zero non conformances) yesterday and today and have been MIA and I tried to read through this and I am way confused on whats going on here... everyone has a role?

i picked up we dont know the ratio thing but this is uber confusing

currently from what I can tell we are at a juice and zaro

juice is suppsoedly some renegage work alone type that kills everyone?
Zaro is supposedly a seer who investigated juice?

this correct?

Yes.

[redwill]

Juice - 10 (nan, redwill, Troy Loney, MWB, mac5155, beerman, slappybrown, the wicked child, Azkar, crayz)
MWB - 2 (npv, dagny)

OOPS. Forgot to remove Azkar from MWB.

[the wicked child]

I don't get it Zaro... Why not just tell us all this from the get go instead of tiptoeing around?

[redwill]

Juice - 10 (nan, redwill, Troy Loney, MWB, mac5155, beerman, slappybrown, the wicked child, Azkar, crayz)
MWB - 3 (npv, Azkar, dagny)

Well, YOU do it, smartypants.

[MWB]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

[MWB]

I don't get it Zaro... Why not just tell us all this from the get go instead of tiptoeing around?

It seems that he researched this and we don't know in fact if this is the case.

[beerman]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

Yeah but what's to say he doesn't just kill Zaro for outing him today or npv just to screw us over. Not worth it when he knows will just kill him in the end whether he helps us or not.

[MWB]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

Yeah but what's to say he doesn't just kill Zaro for outing him today or npv just to screw us over. Not worth it when he knows will just kill him in the end whether he helps us or not.

Yeah, true. Not worth the risk. I'm sticking with the Juice vote.

[crayz]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

and we would know by the kill message - unless someone is protected.

That's not a bad angle...keep him on a tight leash.

hmm......Juice, I look at this as your one chance of staying in the game. Can you confirm your role and that you would help by listening to the village?

restore juice until further thoughts go in to this

[crayz]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

Yeah but what's to say he doesn't just kill Zaro for outing him today or npv just to screw us over. Not worth it when he knows will just kill him in the end whether he helps us or not.

yea, i agree...but what does he gain if his end goal is to win the game...he should try and stay alive as long as possible...

ugh...this game is insane.... but getting more interesting

[Zarovich]

you mean like...do what we tell you or we're going to delete you....

Maybe that would work. We could tell him who to kill so it's like getting two lynches a day. If he doesn't do it we kill him.

and we would know by the kill message - unless someone is protected.

That's not a bad angle...keep him on a tight leash.

hmm......Juice, I look at this as your one chance of staying in the game. Can you confirm your role and that you would help by listening to the village?

restore juice until further thoughts go in to this

I've been trying to do that but the only thing he has done is say he is town and then that deleting him would be bad. I'm trying to get a read on him and his role. We don't know what he can do exactly and Pavel said to use the site as a guide, I don't think the roles are set from it.

[Troy Loney]

yea, i agree...but what does he gain if his end goal is to win the game...he should try and stay alive as long as possible...

ugh...this game is insane.... but getting more interesting

Except his goal is for everyone to die....i think at this stage in the game he is more of an asset for the bosses than the town...plus he can always say things like..."no kill tonight", er "forgot to send my pm guys"...i know we said such and such...but i had a hunch.

[beerman]

yea, i agree...but what does he gain if his end goal is to win the game...he should try and stay alive as long as possible...

ugh...this game is insane.... but getting more interesting

But he knows the village will kill him regardless in the end. Even if he plays with the village for a few rounds, the village will just kill him off at some point because he'll have to play for himself - against the greater good - at some point. So why help us at all when he knows we'll just turn on him?

[crayz]

yea, i agree...but what does he gain if his end goal is to win the game...he should try and stay alive as long as possible...

ugh...this game is insane.... but getting more interesting

But he knows the village will kill him regardless in the end. Even if he plays with the village for a few rounds, the village will just kill him off at some point because he'll have to play for himself - against the greater good - at some point. So why help us at all when he knows we'll just turn on him?

Yep, you guys are both right. I just wanted to make sure we saw all angles first and in the long-term it doesn't make sense. He could really screw us over...

delete juice

[Zarovich]

delete juice

It will at least prove I'm the detective