beerman wrote:I'm torn on what we should do with Juice, I certainly think deleting him would be a pretty good option, but at the same time he could knock off a boss or two for us. I wonder whether or not he was the one to kill shaf last night. The big thing that worries me about keeping him around is if he kills too many hero's off the bat. Just think if we miss two deletions in a row and at night the bosses kill two people as does juice, we just dropped 6 green guys in a 2 day span. I'm always usually relieved when the vig/bird whatever they are go because imo they usually do more harm than good for the village, so I'm probably leaning towards juice unless some more info comes out. Plus it's not like he's around to help us at all really if he only win's by playing for himself and being the last guy left.
If he is the role he is supposed to be, and he plays it how he is supposed to, he is not going to be any help. Sure, he may kill a few boss's, but like you said, he can play the "I tried to get one and missed card". Or he could go off and kill other RPS, and we'd never know who did it, the boss's or him.
He is for himself. (if the role is true). And I believe he will play it that way.
Alright, well I'm out for the rest of the day and probably won't be back on till after the pens game.
I know that Juice is independent, but that doesn't mean he has to hurt us. I'm sticking with MWB, because he has been going after a lot of the same people Shafnutz did, including people who might be role players. That doesn't help the village at all.
Juice is of no threat to us now that he is exposed.
It creates more confusion for the MAFIA side IMO. We know [supposedly] the seer and the angel. Juice wouldent want to risk attacking one of them and wasting a kill on them if the mafia was going after them as well. The MAFIA will not want to go after the role players either because they have no idea who the angel is protecting.
I think we should keep him on the back burner and IF things start to get ugly lynch him, he is going to be randomly killing people and might get [another?] MAFIA boss.
Malkamaniac wrote:SO juice is the vig and people still are going after him? Sooooo confused.
he's not the vig in the sense that he wins if the town wins. he's a third party person who wins only if he is the last man standing, meaning he's not only looking for mafia.
if the role is as described I don't see what good he brings to the village, plus if the role is exactly as Zaro called it, it should quit the talk of deleting him. win-win
Malkamaniac wrote:SO juice is the vig and people still are going after him? Sooooo confused.
he's not the vig in the sense that he wins if the town wins. he's a third party person who wins only if he is the last man standing, meaning he's not only looking for mafia.
and at this point wouldn't he be trying to knock out town people to get the numbers closer and keep his chances of winning higher?
And we can't assume that juice killed shaftnutz last night...there might be another vig type character that only works for the town....all juice did was adamantly try to delete zarovich...so i dont know he's helped out a whole lot.
Malkamaniac wrote:SO juice is the vig and people still are going after him? Sooooo confused.
he's not the vig in the sense that he wins if the town wins. he's a third party person who wins only if he is the last man standing, meaning he's not only looking for mafia.
and at this point wouldn't he be trying to knock out town people to get the numbers closer and keep his chances of winning higher?
Agreed. If he plays the role as describes, he will build the villages trust and make it seem like he is trying to only go after the boss's. The boss's don't mind because they know he needs to keep the numbers close.
He is only going to play for himself. Again, if he truly is that role.
Troy Loney wrote:And we can't assume that juice killed shaftnutz last night...there might be another vig type character that only works for the town....all juice did was adamantly try to delete zarovich...so i dont know he's helped out a whole lot.
I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?
slappybrown wrote:I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?
slappybrown wrote:I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?
slappybrown wrote:I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?
Nope, it answers two questoins for us.
Well then as this gives the town the most information/bang for our buck, lynch jooce
slappybrown wrote:I guess my view is, if you delete Juice, and he is a townie, then Zaro is deadzo. If he is the Serial Killer, Zaro is confirmed. Am I missing anything?
According to the site, Juice is unkillable at night, so he has no fear from the bosses which makes him a great hero ally. Since I have already outed him, he has no chance to win. We can try to use him to our advantage or take him out now.
