Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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I need someone smarter than me to explain what Graves is doing and why it’s not completely wrong. Canes coming in the zone, the guy closer to him peels to the boards without the puck and we have guys coming back but he sticks with him creating a huge hole in the slot that we were lucky the puck went out of play instead of being put in empty space where a 3rd Cane would has been driving.

He does this bizarre things almost every shift. Someone is either telling him to do these things, is telling him to stop and he won’t listen or aren’t trying at all to correct his horrible instincts.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Decent defensive effort for the Pens.Canes didn't get too many good looks.
Sid was a force that entire period.Outstanding defensively and a strong gritty goal.17 Years in this league and still can do it all.
Malkin with another no show game so far.Penalty was a weak call but his play was weaker.
Pens still need to be careful with the long stretch passes.
Rakell is beyond due,He's getting a Goal tonight. Maybe,LOL.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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DelPen wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:40 pm I need someone smarter than me to explain what Graves is doing and why it’s not completely wrong. Canes coming in the zone, the guy closer to him peels to the boards without the puck and we have guys coming back but he sticks with him creating a huge hole in the slot that we were lucky the puck went out of play instead of being put in empty space where a 3rd Cane would has been driving.

He does this bizarre things almost every shift. Someone is either telling him to do these things, is telling him to stop and he won’t listen or aren’t trying at all to correct his horrible instincts.
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The Penguins have been out-attempted 22-6 with the Graves-Karlsson pairing on the ice at 5v5 over the last 4 periods.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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KG wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:56 pm
DelPen wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:40 pm I need someone smarter than me to explain what Graves is doing and why it’s not completely wrong. Canes coming in the zone, the guy closer to him peels to the boards without the puck and we have guys coming back but he sticks with him creating a huge hole in the slot that we were lucky the puck went out of play instead of being put in empty space where a 3rd Cane would has been driving.

He does this bizarre things almost every shift. Someone is either telling him to do these things, is telling him to stop and he won’t listen or aren’t trying at all to correct his horrible instincts.
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The Penguins have been out-attempted 22-6 with the Graves-Karlsson pairing on the ice at 5v5 over the last 4 periods.
I think we're almost at the point where Graves needs to be sheltered on the 3rd pairing, or scratched completely, until he figures out how to remove his head from his rear.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Graves with a terrible read leads to an open shot that fortunately missed the net.

Agree on the needing to get him off the top 2 D-Man Pairings.He is s liability out there.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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I was going to give Graves some benefit of doubt that our coaches are bad and won’t get him out of this but looking at his history he played for 3 different QMJHL organizations and his on his 4th NHL team. This just seems like a huge miss by Dubas and will be a bigger problem than Jack Johnson was for cap and could end up staying in the lineup because of how much he makes.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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I’ve been working with my son’s mites team on angling drills a lot lately. Watching Graves take horrible angles to the puck is really showing up to me tonight.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Sid bringing the effort on these shifts.Grinding drew the call.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Going to be another one of those games where not scoring on the PP will hurt later on.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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So much for the hot power play
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Well, first unit, second unit….both suck. It’s like they are always just freewheeling out there, they look like they don’t even try to make a pass that will hit their man. No attention to detail. Granted Crosby and Jake had decent opportunities, it remains stale and just wild.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Just awful from the PP tonight.Looks completely out of sorts.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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What a clownshow.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Poor Ned
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Letang with a terrible turnover led to that entire sequence.

Tired group out there and a lucky bounce ties it.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Letang’s nicest goal of the season
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Not on Ned. Off Letang's skate
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Can’t say Harkins doesn’t go all out when he’s out there
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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stonewizard51 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:29 pm Not on Ned. Off Letang's skate
Playing in the wrong end for extended periods of time. Missing clears, icing.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Not sure why or how Pesce is arguing this. That was really dumb of him.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Pass, pass, pass. Ugh!!!!
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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WTH are they doing on this power play? Its bad decision after bad decision after bad decision
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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How lazy can these clown be? What an awful 4 on 2 after a good shortie opportunity going the other way. Hate to be the broken record but…….. FIRE SULLY!!!
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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Horrid PP might be the difference in this one.
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Re: Official GDT: Pens vs Canes 12/21/23

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What a stupid PP. Malkin passes to Jake who one touches it back to Malkin and it’s immediately a turnover instead of a scoring chance. D-U-M-B.