Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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nobody will claim him...someone might trade him for their overpaid useless player...Clarkson comes to mind. The only other way he's being traded is if the Kings add a draft pick or prospect. A team near that may struggle to reach the cap floor may consider it, but for the term he has left even that's iffy.

Not buying him out last off season may potentially kill the kings chances at another cup until his contract is up.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 15h15 hours ago
Lombardi doesn't expect Richards to be claimed on waivers. Says looked at trade route but no fit. Hopes Mike will re-discover game in AHL
That's a lot of cheddar to pay an AHL player (even if only for a short period of time).
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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This is a risky move by Lombardi no? Aren't the Kings super screwed if Richards retires?
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ville5 wrote:This is a risky move by Lombardi no? Aren't the Kings super screwed if Richards retires?
If I'm not mistaken, you're only screwed on the cap hit if the player signs the contract at 35+ years old and then decides to retire.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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I mentioned this in the transactions thread, but I'm fairly certain the Kings will have cap recapture penalties if Richards retires. McKenzie mentioned it but didn't really specify as to why. Meow said it may be because his salary is higher than his cap hit.
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MRandall25 wrote:I mentioned this in the transactions thread, but I'm fairly certain the Kings will have cap recapture penalties if Richards retires. McKenzie mentioned it but didn't really specify as to why. Meow said it may be because his salary is higher than his cap hit.
I've been schooled from someone that knows bigger words than I do on the subject:
Richards has played 3.57 seasons for LA, earning $26.5 million dollars, while only using $20.5 million dollars in cap space; a difference of $6 million dollars. That $6 million dollar figure is what the Kings would be penalized for if Richards retires prior to the end of the contract. If he has 6 years left on the contract, LA would have a $1 million cap penalty for each of the next six seasons. If he has 1 year left, LA would have a $6 million cap penalty for the one season Richards was suppose to be under contract for.


I think...
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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So how many more years will the Mets be paying Bobby Bonilla when the Richards deal is finished? That's the real measuring stick to how bad an athlete's contract is. :lol:
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Digitalgypsy66 wrote:So how many more years will the Mets be paying Bobby Bonilla when the Richards deal is finished? That's the real measuring stick to how bad an athlete's contract is. :lol:
Dipietro's deal might be just as bad (or good, depending on which side of it that you're on)
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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The 2008 version of me can't stop laughing about how zero teams in the nhl wanting anything to do with captain leadership right now.

...that guy is also ignoring the bloated contract factoring in, but none the less...ha.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I mentioned this in the transactions thread, but I'm fairly certain the Kings will have cap recapture penalties if Richards retires. McKenzie mentioned it but didn't really specify as to why. Meow said it may be because his salary is higher than his cap hit.
I've been schooled from someone that knows bigger words than I do on the subject:
Richards has played 3.57 seasons for LA, earning $26.5 million dollars, while only using $20.5 million dollars in cap space; a difference of $6 million dollars. That $6 million dollar figure is what the Kings would be penalized for if Richards retires prior to the end of the contract. If he has 6 years left on the contract, LA would have a $1 million cap penalty for each of the next six seasons. If he has 1 year left, LA would have a $6 million cap penalty for the one season Richards was suppose to be under contract for.


I think...
That makes sense to me and is pretty manageable if so...but that wasnt my understanding.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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Idoit40fans wrote:
meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I mentioned this in the transactions thread, but I'm fairly certain the Kings will have cap recapture penalties if Richards retires. McKenzie mentioned it but didn't really specify as to why. Meow said it may be because his salary is higher than his cap hit.
I've been schooled from someone that knows bigger words than I do on the subject:
Richards has played 3.57 seasons for LA, earning $26.5 million dollars, while only using $20.5 million dollars in cap space; a difference of $6 million dollars. That $6 million dollar figure is what the Kings would be penalized for if Richards retires prior to the end of the contract. If he has 6 years left on the contract, LA would have a $1 million cap penalty for each of the next six seasons. If he has 1 year left, LA would have a $6 million cap penalty for the one season Richards was suppose to be under contract for.


I think...
That makes sense to me and is pretty manageable if so...but that wasnt my understanding.
Keep in mind, this scenario only plays out if he retires.
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meow wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:
meow wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:I mentioned this in the transactions thread, but I'm fairly certain the Kings will have cap recapture penalties if Richards retires. McKenzie mentioned it but didn't really specify as to why. Meow said it may be because his salary is higher than his cap hit.
I've been schooled from someone that knows bigger words than I do on the subject:
Richards has played 3.57 seasons for LA, earning $26.5 million dollars, while only using $20.5 million dollars in cap space; a difference of $6 million dollars. That $6 million dollar figure is what the Kings would be penalized for if Richards retires prior to the end of the contract. If he has 6 years left on the contract, LA would have a $1 million cap penalty for each of the next six seasons. If he has 1 year left, LA would have a $6 million cap penalty for the one season Richards was suppose to be under contract for.


I think...
That makes sense to me and is pretty manageable if so...but that wasnt my understanding.
Keep in mind, this scenario only plays out if he retires.
I don't know how much $ is left on his contract, but with 5 years left I imagine that will still be serious money, so I don't see Jeff retiring anytime soon.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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I think it's like 5 years, $22 million left or some such...
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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I thought the recapture penalty was higher. $1million isn't bad at all.
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ville5 wrote:I thought the recapture penalty was higher. $1million isn't bad at all.
It's tough for a team operating as close to the cap as the Kings are.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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If they can survive Mike Richards at whatever his cap hit was, they can survive a 1 million dollar cap penalty. He hasn't been a $5 million dollar cap hit player for them.
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Lucky for them they have some serious producers on ELCs
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mikey287 wrote:I think it's like 5 years, $22 million left or some such...
Mikey, his contract is a serious problem so help me out here. I don't know the rules for such a case, but are all contracts non-negotiable once signed? What I'm getting at... could he willingly cut his salary to push forward a trade to another team?
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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No, he cannot. The Kings can retain a certain percentage (up to 50%) if they so choose though.
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mikey287 wrote:No, he cannot. The Kings can retain a certain percentage (up to 50%) if they so choose though.
So he's stuck with it. OK, Thanks. I just asked because I'm sure he's a proud guy and if he has to play in the minors for several years...
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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It's called the Wade Redden.
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Re: Reports of Mike Richards on waivers..

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meow wrote:Lucky for them they have some serious producers on ELCs
but aren't most of those players in the final year of their ELCs?
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JS© wrote:
meow wrote:Lucky for them they have some serious producers on ELCs
but aren't most of those players in the final year of their ELCs?
Yup. All their young forwards will be RFA this offseason.