***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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dodint wrote:Same. I operate paranoid and don't believe for a second I was randomly at the top of that list.
:lol:

Why would I purposely put you on the top of the list?
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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columbia wrote:The random machine has never picked a red for me, so I'm hesitant to do it these days.
its likely that it wont. Thats why i suggested we offer up quiet players. That way if we know they arent helping (by talking) then we can ensure they dont hurt us either. It's always been a pet-peeve of mine, the people that just sign up and dont lend anything to the game. I dont buy it as game strategy either because theres a difference between piping down at the right time, and being dead weight.

Rel voting for shad seems odd, he used to be the guy that never supported early day 1 bandwagons...

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Vote Count

dodint - 2 (ulf, shaf)
Shaf - 2 (relantel, dodint)
relantel - 1 (Benny Fitz)

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Benny Fitz wrote:someone want to do a random.org list of quiet players and through a name out there? I'd do it but i've been out of the game for so long that i dont know the participants as well as i once did, nor do i want to hurt anyones feelings...
The first day phrase just started less than 2 hours ago and you want to start killing quiet players? :?
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Sorry didn't see you more recent post. I think voting out quiet players is a good strategy just not on the first day.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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I was killed on Day 1 of the only other game I've played. I think you think it'd be funny to do it again. Even though you were the only player to die before me in that game.

It's Day 1 here, why wouldn't I vote for the only other person with a vote hanging on them? Especially if that person is particularly good at these things.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:
Benny Fitz wrote:someone want to do a random.org list of quiet players and through a name out there? I'd do it but i've been out of the game for so long that i dont know the participants as well as i once did, nor do i want to hurt anyones feelings...
The first day phrase just started less than 2 hours ago and you want to start killing quiet players? :?
im guess i mean more historically quiet.. that's why i didnt want to do the list myself. i dont know who the coasters are these days...

and unless i see something telling, i'm ok will letting stronger/more talkative players through to later rounds. if for nothing else, then at least for entertainment purposes. its like killing the best actors and being left with extras.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Don't like the dodint vote out of sympathy, he's had exactly one warz day in his record.

Dont't like the shaf vote because he's a tremendous asset when village, even he's a royal pain when red.

So the only other vote right now is rel, who was also the first person to throw shaf's name in. Good enough for me on a day 1.

Bomb rel, color please.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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I'll roll with the bomb rel vote.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

Post by columbia »

What's the statistical likelihood of him being red two games in a row?
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Always intrigues me when people go against the random vote, there's really nothing to go on yet. Also the stats are irrelevant to this single game.
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Irrelevant. The likelihood of him being red in this game is the same as anyone else. That is a really unsound way to make a decision as the games exist in their own complete spheres of influence.

If I win the lottery on Monday I have the same chance as everyone else to win it on Tuesday.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Vote Count

dodint - 2 (ulf, shaf)
Shaf - 2 (relantel, dodint)
relantel - 2 (Benny Fitz, Crankshaft)

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Cbear3 has a Bomb Rel as well. I'll switch for momentums sake since there really isn't anything to go on anyway.

extract shafnutz05

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Vote Count

dodint - 2 (ulf, shaf)
Shaf - 1 (relantel)
relantel - 4 (Benny Fitz, Crankshaft, Cbear, dodint)

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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rel always plays like this though. no reasoning for a Shad vote, I never can get a read on him.. He's a good player so I'm not on board with a rel vote until I'm pretty sure.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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bomb rel
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dodint wrote:Irrelevant. The likelihood of him being red in this game is the same as anyone else. That is a really unsound way to make a decision as the games exist in their own complete spheres of influence.

If I win the lottery on Monday I have the same chance as everyone else to win it on Tuesday.
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I'm at peace if you want to bomb away. Won't learn much at all, other than the patterns of those who ordered the sortie.
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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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Vote Count

dodint - 2 (ulf, shaf)
Shaf - 1 (relantel)
relantel - 5 (Benny Fitz, Crankshaft, Cbear, dodint, Troy Loney)

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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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dodint wrote:Irrelevant. The likelihood of him being red in this game is the same as anyone else. That is a really unsound way to make a decision as the games exist in their own complete spheres of influence.

If I win the lottery on Monday I have the same chance as everyone else to win it on Tuesday.
A = randomly chosen to be red in the last game
B = randomly chosen to be red in this game

P(A and B) = probability of both events happening
P(A and B) = P(A) * P(B)

Now let's work with the actual numbers:

P (A and B) = (3/15) * (3/18) = 3.3%

Exactly as the chances of getting two heads in a row in a coin toss are (1/2) * (1/2) = 1/4.

So you're either red or don't understand probability. Either way:


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Re: ***World Warz II Game Thread***

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He has the same chance at being red this game as any of us.
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While your match is correct, it's only relevant if we were at the beginning of last game thinking, "what are the odds rel is red this game and the next one?" since that game is over, it's moot.

Sure, flipping heads twice in a row is a 25 percent chance, but once you do it the first time, it's 50 percent you're gonna do it again. Wait, am I really explaining this?
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Playing this game in maxthon theme is yard. yellow on white doesn't mix. I dont think rel should go this early.

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Math*