Stanislav21 wrote:I'm sure this is a stupid question, but ... how is your GAA calculated?
(Edit: I understand 2.95 assuming it's the extra minute in overtime. What about 3.01?)
no name wrote:There is a comfort in playing Murray knowing he has been in the playoff and can stand the pressure cooker it can be. But up to this point Jarry has been the better of the 2. I don't envy the decision Sully has to make.
Puck-Lurker wrote:no name wrote:There is a comfort in playing Murray knowing he has been in the playoff and can stand the pressure cooker it can be. But up to this point Jarry has been the better of the 2. I don't envy the decision Sully has to make.
Unless Jarry can pull clearly ahead and Murray fumbles at a key moment, Murray has the net come playoff time.
FLPensFan wrote:Updated numbers on original post...
FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
murphydump55 wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
I think the goaltending battle is healthy and will only make the team better. Internal competition is a good thing. I think you're going to see Andersen return to Toronto looking much better now that Campbell is there pushing him.
brwi wrote:murphydump55 wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
I think the goaltending battle is healthy and will only make the team better. Internal competition is a good thing. I think you're going to see Andersen return to Toronto looking much better now that Campbell is there pushing him.
I think so too. Sullivan is giving Murray a chance to show he's #1 on this team and Jarry may have cooled a little but is still playing very well. If they spilt the remaining starts 50/50 or close to it, let's see who emerges if either as a clear-cut choice. Right now, I think Jarry is still the #1 but the gap has definitely closed with Murray's much improved performances and Jarry slightly coming down.
murphydump55 wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
You know better than to judge a goaltender by wins. It's like judging a pitcher by wins.
Murray's last 3 starts came against Tampa, Washington, and Tampa. Not exactly the easiest of opponents. He held the Lightning to 1 regulation time goal last game, and since you value wins, he beat the Caps. Prior to that he won 5 in a row! He's 6-1-1 in his last 8 and you cherry pick that he only has 1 win in his last 3? (especially with those opponents and an OT loss in there?)
Tampa is the hottest team in the league and Washington as we know is no slouch. Jarry is 5-3-1 in his last 9 games compared to Murray 6-1-1 in his last 8 since you wanted to relate to wins.
I think the goaltending battle is healthy and will only make the team better. Internal competition is a good thing. I think you're going to see Andersen return to Toronto looking much better now that Campbell is there pushing him.
murphydump55 wrote:brwi wrote:murphydump55 wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
I think the goaltending battle is healthy and will only make the team better. Internal competition is a good thing. I think you're going to see Andersen return to Toronto looking much better now that Campbell is there pushing him.
I think so too. Sullivan is giving Murray a chance to show he's #1 on this team and Jarry may have cooled a little but is still playing very well. If they spilt the remaining starts 50/50 or close to it, let's see who emerges if either as a clear-cut choice. Right now, I think Jarry is still the #1 but the gap has definitely closed with Murray's much improved performances and Jarry slightly coming down.
His 5 v 5 numbers have struggled and his HD save% is killing him.
FLPensFan wrote:murphydump55 wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated. Murray's numbers overall are improving, but, he has only 1 win in his 3 starts. Jarry has won both of his post-ASG games. I'm expecting Jarry to start Friday, but wouldn't be shocked if Sullivan went back to Murray.
You know better than to judge a goaltender by wins. It's like judging a pitcher by wins.
Murray's last 3 starts came against Tampa, Washington, and Tampa. Not exactly the easiest of opponents. He held the Lightning to 1 regulation time goal last game, and since you value wins, he beat the Caps. Prior to that he won 5 in a row! He's 6-1-1 in his last 8 and you cherry pick that he only has 1 win in his last 3? (especially with those opponents and an OT loss in there?)
Tampa is the hottest team in the league and Washington as we know is no slouch. Jarry is 5-3-1 in his last 9 games compared to Murray 6-1-1 in his last 8 since you wanted to relate to wins.
I think the goaltending battle is healthy and will only make the team better. Internal competition is a good thing. I think you're going to see Andersen return to Toronto looking much better now that Campbell is there pushing him.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to judge. Just pointing out. Sometimes it is the opponent. Sometimes a team seems to play better in front of certain goalies for unknown reasons. Sometimes that a complete a myth and it just looks that way. I would like to see Jarry play against some of the tougher competition. And I have noticed the multiple games with 3 or more goals allowed by Jarry.
I've also noticed that nobody, and I mean nobody, seems to be talking about Murray's health, or more importantly, lack of health issues this season. It was a big key to his success moving forward. Whether it has just been luck or what, a healthy Murray shouldn't be over looked. It also seems like the trend is....Murray just isn't a great first half goalie. I took a look at Matt Murray's Even Strength numbers from Oct-Dec each year, versus January-April (regular season)
Oct-Dec(15-16 through 19-20): 129 Games, .918SV%, 2.45GAA
Jan-Apr(15-16 through 19-20): 101 Games, .929SV%, 2.26GAA
I'm not an expert in calculating GSAA, but Murray had 2 negative values (one very large negative, this season) in the 1st half of the 5 seasons. He had no negative GSAA values in the 2nd half of the 5 seasons.
Murph, in your personal opinion, what should GMJR do this summer with the goaltending? You really can't keep all 3 again next year. Do you stay with Murray, pay the higher cap hit at the possible cost of depth at other positions (3rd pairing defense most likely), or do you think Jarry/DeSmith combined for almost half as much AAV as Murray is the better plan for the team?
FLPensFan wrote:Updated stats...
pens_CT wrote:FLPensFan wrote:Updated stats...
The number of high danger shots, 24 in three games for each goalie sounds like a high number for a team that wants to go deep into the playoffs. Is there any way to compare that number against a couple of teams that are considered "good" defensively?
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