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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Southern Fan on Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:41 am

Rant time. This offensive coordinator should be fired today. It looks like he devises a game plan assuming Ben and Antonio are playing. They do the wildcat against a garbage team and it works. then they try it against a quality team, Ravens, and it fails. And they never go back to it in later games.

Third and one and their intention is to use two plays to get the first. And they pass to Holton and Jones.

Their defense is high level. If they are around the 40, punt the ball inside the 5 and let the defense win the game.

Habaugh fired his coach mid year and won the super bowl. Rudolph is set up to fail.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Zarovich on Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:48 pm

Rudolph has no pocket awareness.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:47 pm

Zarovich wrote:Rudolph has no pocket awareness.


Agreed. Duck looked much more comfortable. Rudolph was off target all day.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:47 am

And just like that, we are back in the playoffs as the last wild card. (NFL = Not For Long is my guess.)
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Southern Fan on Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:11 am

Another terrible week of offensive game planning. Thanks for the defense and 2017 Boswell.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:53 am

The O-line looked grim, especially Villanueva. (Yeah, I know Pouncey did not play.)
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby DelPen on Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:15 pm

Humperdink wrote:The O-line looked grim, especially Villanueva. (Yeah, I know Pouncey did not play.)

Looked horrible again to start the game but the Wildcat for even just a few plays really messed up the Browns and showed some openings and Duck went to work. It also helped that the one DB interfered every single play.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:46 pm

If that was a fake punt, it was dumbest call Tomlin has made in his storied coaching career.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby DelPen on Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:44 pm

This game vs the Bills, zero consistency on the penalty calls.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:59 am

Since we have been reduced finding our skilled offensive players on street corners, our heralded offensive line better pick it up.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby sluggermatt15 on Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:41 pm

Humperdink wrote:Since we have been reduced finding our skilled offensive players on street corners, our heralded offensive line better pick it up.


Looks like JuJu and Vance McDonald will return tomorrow from injury. Could be a shot in the arm the offense needs.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Nice game Coach (of the Year). *cough*
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby ville5 on Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:17 pm

Humperdink wrote:Nice game Coach (of the Year). *cough*

I'd have to say this is more on their anemic offense. But I'd be all for bringing Munchak back as line coach/head coach lol.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:04 pm

ville5 wrote:
Humperdink wrote:Nice game Coach (of the Year). *cough*

I'd have to say this is more on their anemic offense. But I'd be all for bringing Munchak back as line coach/head coach lol.


I continue to struggle with Coach T losing to bottom feeders. That's one of his legacies. I get it that we are depleted. But we have not one, but two, all-pros on the offensive line (out of five). One would think we could devise a game plan to shelter our deer-in-the-headlights QB.

PS: Tomlin is here for life.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby sluggermatt15 on Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:36 pm

Tomlin can redeem himself with a win on Sunday.

Even an 8-8 finish is a great coaching job given how the season unraveled.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:27 pm

Thankfully, it's mercifully over. Now to extend Tomlin through the 2075 season (gag me).
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Daniel on Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:16 am

Humperdink wrote:Thankfully, it's mercifully over. Now to extend Tomlin through the 2075 season (gag me).


I think Tomlin did a very good job this season. I'm with you on the negative Tomlin train but I'll give credit where it's due. I still hope Dan Snyder makes the Rooney's an offer they can't refuse for Tomlin's services though. Take the NFLs version of Dan Byslma to the NFC.

That said, I think the coaching staff didn't do enough to help the QB situation. They went in with Ben and no experience, which is fine but have a backup plan for the offense.

Having no running game, no TE, and no FB really killed the QB situation. Jaylen Samuels has good pass catching abilities and could have played an Hback/FB position to help the running game and be a safety valve in the passing game. They just seemed to make little adjustments to the offense and seemed to go from training wheel offense to Big Ben passorama offense.

I like Snell and think he can be a nice bruiser but I think the team needs a legit number 1 RB. I like Connor but he can't seem to stay healthy.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:10 pm

Daniel wrote:
Humperdink wrote:Thankfully, it's mercifully over. Now to extend Tomlin through the 2075 season (gag me).


I think Tomlin did a very good job this season. I'm with you on the negative Tomlin train but I'll give credit where it's due. I still hope Dan Snyder makes the Rooney's an offer they can't refuse for Tomlin's services though. Take the NFLs version of Dan Byslma to the NFC.

That said, I think the coaching staff didn't do enough to help the QB situation. They went in with Ben and no experience, which is fine but have a backup plan for the offense.

Having no running game, no TE, and no FB really killed the QB situation. Jaylen Samuels has good pass catching abilities and could have played an Hback/FB position to help the running game and be a safety valve in the passing game. They just seemed to make little adjustments to the offense and seemed to go from training wheel offense to Big Ben passorama offense.

I like Snell and think he can be a nice bruiser but I think the team needs a legit number 1 RB. I like Connor but he can't seem to stay healthy.


I'm sorry that I am negative on Coach T. My reasons in no particular order:


1) He can beat the bottom feeders. The NY Jets being the most recent example. To me, it's lack of having the team prepared.
2) He tosses the red flag when it's clear it's a loser.
3) Clock management skills are third rate.
4) His "managing" Antonio Brown's behavior cost the Steelers dearly. Maybe Brown was incorrigible, but Tomlin's distinct lack of disciplining Brown early in his career did not help.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby sluggermatt15 on Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:40 pm

Humperdink wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Humperdink wrote:Thankfully, it's mercifully over. Now to extend Tomlin through the 2075 season (gag me).


I think Tomlin did a very good job this season. I'm with you on the negative Tomlin train but I'll give credit where it's due. I still hope Dan Snyder makes the Rooney's an offer they can't refuse for Tomlin's services though. Take the NFLs version of Dan Byslma to the NFC.

That said, I think the coaching staff didn't do enough to help the QB situation. They went in with Ben and no experience, which is fine but have a backup plan for the offense.

Having no running game, no TE, and no FB really killed the QB situation. Jaylen Samuels has good pass catching abilities and could have played an Hback/FB position to help the running game and be a safety valve in the passing game. They just seemed to make little adjustments to the offense and seemed to go from training wheel offense to Big Ben passorama offense.

I like Snell and think he can be a nice bruiser but I think the team needs a legit number 1 RB. I like Connor but he can't seem to stay healthy.


I'm sorry that I am negative on Coach T. My reasons in no particular order:


1) He can beat the bottom feeders. The NY Jets being the most recent example. To me, it's lack of having the team prepared.
2) He tosses the red flag when it's clear it's a loser.
3) Clock management skills are third rate.
4) His "managing" Antonio Brown's behavior cost the Steelers dearly. Maybe Brown was incorrigible, but Tomlin's distinct lack of disciplining Brown early in his career did not help.


1. Yes, Tomlin has a crystal clear track record of struggles against sub-.500 opponents/inferior competition. I agree about lack of preparation. He needs to step it up there.
2. Agree.
3. Agree, but better in 2019.
4. Somewhat disagree. Brown was suspended by the team for the final game of 2018. Didn't really hurt the team. The best move Tomlin and the organization made was to trade him to Oakland. Look at all the garbage that has occurred since. Steelers let him go at the PERFECT time.

I have to give props to Tomlin on the 8-8 record this year, given the circumstances he dealt with. He's still never had a losing campaign. Let's see how he fares with Ben (hopefully) back in the fall. Remember, his contract is up following the 2020-2021 season.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Humperdink on Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:35 am

sluggermatt15 wrote:
Humperdink wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Humperdink wrote:Thankfully, it's mercifully over. Now to extend Tomlin through the 2075 season (gag me).


I think Tomlin did a very good job this season. I'm with you on the negative Tomlin train but I'll give credit where it's due. I still hope Dan Snyder makes the Rooney's an offer they can't refuse for Tomlin's services though. Take the NFLs version of Dan Byslma to the NFC.

That said, I think the coaching staff didn't do enough to help the QB situation. They went in with Ben and no experience, which is fine but have a backup plan for the offense.

Having no running game, no TE, and no FB really killed the QB situation. Jaylen Samuels has good pass catching abilities and could have played an Hback/FB position to help the running game and be a safety valve in the passing game. They just seemed to make little adjustments to the offense and seemed to go from training wheel offense to Big Ben passorama offense.

I like Snell and think he can be a nice bruiser but I think the team needs a legit number 1 RB. I like Connor but he can't seem to stay healthy.


I'm sorry that I am negative on Coach T. My reasons in no particular order:


1) He can beat the bottom feeders. The NY Jets being the most recent example. To me, it's lack of having the team prepared.
2) He tosses the red flag when it's clear it's a loser.
3) Clock management skills are third rate.
4) His "managing" Antonio Brown's behavior cost the Steelers dearly. Maybe Brown was incorrigible, but Tomlin's distinct lack of disciplining Brown early in his career did not help.


1. Yes, Tomlin has a crystal clear track record of struggles against sub-.500 opponents/inferior competition. I agree about lack of preparation. He needs to step it up there.
2. Agree.
3. Agree, but better in 2019.
4. Somewhat disagree. Brown was suspended by the team for the final game of 2018. Didn't really hurt the team. The best move Tomlin and the organization made was to trade him to Oakland. Look at all the garbage that has occurred since. Steelers let him go at the PERFECT time.

I have to give props to Tomlin on the 8-8 record this year, given the circumstances he dealt with. He's still never had a losing campaign. Let's see how he fares with Ben (hopefully) back in the fall. Remember, his contract is up following the 2020-2021 season.


Fair points. My point regarding Tomlin/Brown was that Brown was young and conformable when he was first drafted. Maybe he has always been incorrigible, but Tomlin condoned the abhorrent behavior.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby sluggermatt15 on Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:52 am

Yes he did. Tomlin does not seem to be a strict coach. Maybe he has changed his ways since the AB Saga.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby DelPen on Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:12 pm

sluggermatt15 wrote:Yes he did. Tomlin does not seem to be a strict coach. Maybe he has changed his ways since the AB Saga.

I’m starting to think he did what he had to do to make sure Brown didn’t suck the entire team into his madness. That meant letting the team essentially act like a bunch of high school kids.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby DelPen on Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:02 am

So free agency, signed a real FB who is a beast in blocking and special teams, got a TE who’s basically a giant WR, depth on the DL after losing Hargrave, depth at OL after losing Finney and managed to free up cal space to be competitive this year. ILB and RB are the only weak spots I can see that can be fixed in the draft and there will be some camp cuts we can grab too.

Lots of ifs coming into 2020 but the ceiling of this team is really high.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby DelPen on Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:33 pm

Steelers passing over 2 good RB’s that would walk into the starting job to select a WR from ND.

Better be trading for Fournette.
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Re: Official Pittsburgh Steelers Thread

Postby Daniel on Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:28 am

DelPen wrote:Steelers passing over 2 good RB’s that would walk into the starting job to select a WR from ND.

Better be trading for Fournette.


I liked that pick, it’s a position of need. Claypool has the size and speed the WR corp needs. The top 3 WRs are all very good, but they’re all about 6’ or so. Claypool will hopefully bring what Bryant did, without the drama. Now the Steelers have 4 WRs that are all under 25 and extremely talented.

As for the RB need, I get that but the big question is this. How much better are those RBs you talked about compared to McFarland and what would have been the drop off from Claypool to the WR the Steelers drafted in the 4th round? 6’5 230lb WRs with 4.4 speed aren’t easy to get.

Overall this was a pretty standard draft for the Steelers, doesn’t look flashy on paper but they’ll end up with productive players. I don’t see a lot of need on this team, outside of RB and rebuilding the OL. I don’t think any of the options in the 2nd round were any better than what they have already, though Conners health is starting to become a concern. I think Claypool will help the running game, though the two biggest things that will help is Ben coming back and an actual commitment to running the ball.
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