Idoit40fans wrote: IanMoran wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:is it me? I never trade haha
Haha, I'm VERY trade friendly but I also always try to make legitimate trade offers. We have a couple guys in the league who just consistently send the worst trade offers imaginable with 20 texts about why its REALLY "great" for me.
Been in the league 5 years and I always just respond with "lol" or something and these same 2 guys still do it consistently. I hate that, just make a reasonable offer, if they reject either make a counter offer or move on
Thats what Kraftster does in all the keeper leagues, but people take the trades.
Ha. I almost never start trade talks with offers, and, if I do, I try to avoid the outlandish offers since I know that I make a note of receiving offers like that. More than anything, I'm a sell high/buy low guy. I try to find trades that, on the surface to other owners, are beneficial trades based upon trending value. If I value Player X as a 5 but his perceived value is a 7 based upon current performance and I can trade for Player Y who the other team values at a 5 at the moment based upon present performance but his actual value is a 7, that is a perfect trade. There are occasions where you might find a trade not based upon trending value. I just value player X as a 5 and you as a 6 and you have someone I like as a 6 and you as a 5, then that's a perfect trade.
The most common problem that I find is that people are not confident enough in their own valuation abilities to put their own value on a player. They figure if I'm offering Player X for Player Y that Player Y must be worth more than Player X. This is why you don't start with trade offers but with general discussion. Get a sense of the value the other team places on your target and then measure your response or first offer accordingly. You can use that trepidation about valuing players to your advantage, and you'd be surprised how frequently other managers will unknowingly end up valuing players at the value you suggest that they hold during trade discussions.
I always have feelers out there so that when players I expect I might be able to buy low on begin to see their value slip in the minds of their owners, I'm already on speed dial regarding that player. I almost always treat my team as a collection of trade assets for the first half to two-thirds of a season. If I can accumulate the most trade asset value as I can to the point when the buyers/sellers are established, I can usually cash in some of that asset value for whatever I need to put together a winner. This is why I never player redraft leagues -- I forget how to trade in leagues like that at this point.
Now with everything in the open, I should avoid being called a fantasy sports shyster, since I can't avoid that label in my real life dealings.