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Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby blufftalk on Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:24 pm

There haven't been any inductees in quite a while. Seems like great timing to induct Barrasso, Stevens, Recchi, Mullen, Murphy, maybe a few others. Right?
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby RentedMule66 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:28 pm

blufftalk wrote:There haven't been any inductees in quite a while. Seems like great timing to induct Barrasso, Stevens, Recchi, Mullen, Murphy, maybe a few others. Right?

Recchi was just inducted, I don't think Stevens / Barrasso has a shot (especially Stevens), Mullen and Murphy should get in.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby longtimefan on Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:38 pm

I believe he was referring to the Penguins Hall of Fame rather then the NHL Hall, though I'm not sure. Joe Mullen was elected to the NHL Hall in 2000. The Pens Hall seems to have been totally forgotten. The team seems to have quit inducting people into it's team Hall, as none have been selected since 2007. Joey Mullen is in both the team and NHL Hall already. If it's the team Hall, I think both Barrasso and Stevens belong. Barrasso is a fringe player for the hockey hall, but his abrasiveness off the us has likely shut him out. Stevens isn't an league hall of famer. You also had the ring of honor at the old arena.

http://pittsburghhockey.net/penguins/pi ... ll-of-fame

RING OF HONOR: Coaches and players from left: Herb Brooks, Craig Patrick, Jean Pronovost, Tom Barrasso, Rick Kehoe, Kevin Stevens, Ron Francis, Jaromir Jagr, Mario Lemieux, Ulf Samuelsson, Dave Burrows, Larry Murphy, Paul Coffey, Les Binkley & Badger Bob Johnson.


I would argue all of them deserve a place in the team's hall. Only Brooks, Barrasso, Stevens, Francis, Jagr, and Murphy are not. They just quit electing people in 2007. The only one who may not be a shoo in to me would be Brooks. The other guys are all deserving, especially when stacked up against some of the previous inductees. Francis certainly. Mario has already said he expects to at some point raise Jagr's 68 to the rafters. Murphy , Stevens, and even Barrasso, all had Penguin careers at least equal to those of Mullen and Samuelsson. They've both already have been elected. That's not even comparing them to some of the old timers like Pronovost, Kehoe, Binkley, etc.

Pens Hall of Fame
Bob Johnson, head coach (1990–1991) inducted 1992
Jean Pronovost, RW (1968–1978) inducted 1992
Rick Kehoe, RW (1974–1985) inducted 1992
Syl Apps, Jr., C (1970–1978) inducted 1994
Edward J. DeBartolo Sr., owner (1977–1991) inducted 1996
Dave Burrows, D (1971–1978, 1980–1982) inducted 1996
Elaine Heufelder, front office (1967–2003) inducted 1996
Mario Lemieux, C (1984–1997, 2000–2006), owner (1999–present) inducted 1999
Jack Riley, GM (1967–1970, 1972–1974) inducted 1999
Joe Mullen, RW (1990–1995, 1996–1997) inducted 2000
Craig Patrick, GM (1989–2006) inducted 2001
Mike Lange, broadcaster (1974–1975, 1976–present) inducted 2001
Anthony "A.T." Caggiano, locker room (1967–2000) inducted 2001
Les Binkley, G (1967–1972) inducted 2003
Ulf Samuelsson, D (1991–1995) inducted 2003
Vince Lascheid, organist (1970–2003) inducted 2003
Paul Coffey, D (1987–1992) inducted 2007
Frank Sciulli, locker room (1967–2007) inducted 2007
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby blufftalk on Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:00 am

Hey ya, folks. Yes, I'm referring to the team's Hall of Fame. That's a great way to honor people who aren't overall Hockey HOFers but are very important to the team's history.

As a previous poster pointed out -- TY for the long reply -- the Pens haven't inducted anyone in quite a while. I say the timing is right to honor some players from the Pens' other back-to-back title teams -- Rex, Murph, Artie, Barrasso, etc.

One day, I could see Fleury, Kunitz, Orpik, Murray and a few others enter the team's HOF, too.

It's a good promotional tool, but the team doesn't need any help selling tickets these days. That might explain why they haven't bothered doing it lately.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby pensfan16 on Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:43 am

John Barbaro (long time PA announcer) (Mario LEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW) should be in it.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby blufftalk on Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:56 am

Agreed. An update is a long time coming.

I trust the Penguins not to butcher this like the Steelers did.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby Great58 on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:32 pm

blufftalk wrote:Hey ya, folks. Yes, I'm referring to the team's Hall of Fame. That's a great way to honor people who aren't overall Hockey HOFers but are very important to the team's history.

As a previous poster pointed out -- TY for the long reply -- the Pens haven't inducted anyone in quite a while. I say the timing is right to honor some players from the Pens' other back-to-back title teams -- Rex, Murph, Artie, Barrasso, etc.

One day, I could see Fleury, Kunitz, Orpik, Murray and a few others enter the team's HOF, too.

It's a good promotional tool, but the team doesn't need any help selling tickets these days. That might explain why they haven't bothered doing it lately.

In time I think the 3+ Cup folks will all be there, eventually. Sid, Geno, Kunitz, Fleury and Letang. Probably Dupuis. Murray if he stays with the club beyond his next contract. Phil if he lasts here his entire contract. Most of that would happen in the aftermath of the Sid/Geno era when on-ice performance is likely to stutter.

Orpik will have served 1/3 of his career as a Capital if he survives his contract without being bought out. While I don't begrudge his chasing the money, I do remember many cheap hits against the Pens since. I can wait to see his name enshrined.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby Jim on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:57 pm

HOFs are ruined by putting too many people in.

There are already a few people in the Pens HOF that I gotta make a little face to and kinda shake my head no. For the one's that you named...

Recchi - Will depend on how his coaching stint goes. While his on Pens ice numbers are impressive, it's not enough for me for a HOF call alone.
Murphy - Meh. Using ice considerations only, I would put him in before Recchi. His ppg is not that far off of Recchi's and he played D.
Stevens - Yes, okay.
Barrasso - I guess
Fleury - It causes a pain down here in the tummy... but okay.
Kunitz - No
Orpik - **** no
Murray - FAR to early to call that.
Barbaro - Yes
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby Great58 on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:24 pm

I wouldn't be mortified if Kunitz were to be honored in the Penguins HOF. A team HOF can be more inclusive than THE HOF without as much of a dilution effect, IMO.

Kunitz is 7th in Pens playoff scoring and 13th in regular season scoring, with 3 Cups as a Pen. Yeah, he played more games than anyone other than Geno, Sid and Jagr, but I think that's part of identifying him as being a Pen.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby pens#1 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:50 pm

Does 29 go in the rafters once he retires. My vote would be yes. Leader in many categories and was only player here for full rebuild.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby Great58 on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:46 am

pens#1 wrote:Does 29 go in the rafters once he retires. My vote would be yes. Leader in many categories and was only player here for full rebuild.

Not to the rafters, IMO. That only 66 and 21 have been retired in the club's first 50 years suggests that only 68, 71 and 87 will join in the foreseeable future.
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Re: Penguins Hall of Fame

Postby KG on Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:55 am

Great58 wrote:
pens#1 wrote:Does 29 go in the rafters once he retires. My vote would be yes. Leader in many categories and was only player here for full rebuild.

Not to the rafters, IMO. That only 66 and 21 have been retired in the club's first 50 years suggests that only 68, 71 and 87 will join in the foreseeable future.


Agreed.
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