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Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:33 am

I know we're only fifteen games into the season, but who does everyone think is the biggest surprise player?

I know Mataa is the easiest choice, but you never know with Rookies so it's hard to predict.

For me, Tanner Glass is the biggest surprise so far. I think he's really doing a good job of stepping up to replace some of the holes left by Cooke. He's not as offensively talented or skilled as Cooke, but I really think Glass has been a difference maker and someone I thought would be in and out of the line-up at this point.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Shaky Walton on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:43 am

Botuzzo has been really solid He was one of those Under the radar guys and has really stepped up his game. Solid in all zones and he and Maatta have been really a solid pairing. They should NEVER be broken up. Work too good together
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Beveridge on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:46 am

Bortuzzo

HM: Jussi (I expected him to cool off from what he did in April)
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby shmenguin on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:47 am

with maatta, i had no expectations. and glass still isn't going to have much of an impact when things start getting real. everyone else is pretty much same old same old...except bortuzzo. he's been fantastic, and has looked like an NHL player any way you slice it.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby columbia on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:51 am

I'll go with Bortuzzo, but with a special nod to Engelland for switching to F and looking pretty ok in the role.

Geno underachieving is not particularly surprising, however. :pop:
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby GSdrums87 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:52 am

Kris Letang

Surprised he's still pulling his same crap.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:54 am

Shaky Walton wrote:They should NEVER be broken up.


Which means Bylsma will probably break up them very soon...

I can see a good argument here for Bortuzzo. He really has stepped up his game to another level and just been solid everywhere.

I still think Glass has really been "under the radar" to use a phrase someone else did in here earlier. He's put up respectable points, but has really done the little things to make a big difference in games.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby pcm on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:07 pm

My list would be:

1. Maatta
2. Niskanen
3. Bortuzzo
4. Glass
5. Megna
6. Fleury

I think if Megna keeps up this level of play and earns a spot on in the top 9 when Neal and Bennett return, he'll jump up behind Maatta on this list.

Niskanen has been one of the Pens best dmen. With Scuderi out, he's got the chance to prove that he can be a consistent top 4 presence. If he continues to do so, then it will be really interesting to see what happens with the D, as Maatta and Bortuzzo are excellent as our bottom pairing.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby sil on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:31 pm

Maatta.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Stevens25 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:43 pm

Fleury- I know he plays relatively strong in the regular season, but he has taken his lumps early in games and refocused. That's not what I am used to from him.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby CERV96 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:45 pm

Coaching adjustments
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby IntangibleBeer on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:46 pm

My list would be:

1. Glass - MUCH better play than last year. Becoming a factor in games.
2. Maata - very promising play for a rookie. Has played up to his opportunities.
3. Engelland - who knew he could play forward?
4. Megna - pretty impressive forward play
5. Fleury - seems to have benefitted from the summer's work. Really want and think he can succeed in the playoffs.
6. Bortuzzo - solid. Coming into his own.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby IntangibleBeer on Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:49 pm

CERV96 wrote:Coaching adjustments


:thumb:

While not exactly the answer to the question, I have to agree that the coaching changes (JM) and in HCDB's in-game adjustments have been a pleasant and welcome surprise. Let's see how they do in the playoffs.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby the riddler on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:01 pm

Fleury. Yes, he's a good regular season goalie but his numbers are much better than his career averages. He could have a shot at the Vezina if he keeps playing this way. I don't think anyone would've predicted that given how he ended last year.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby RxBandit66 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:03 pm

Nobody has mentioned Engelland as a winger. The experiment is in its early stages, but if he can fill that void and provide a gritty 4th line enforcer type, a 7th defenseman in case of an in-game injury, and the occasional goal or point, what a boost that would be.

Also, the Maatta-Bortuzzo pairing is playing outstanding hockey right now, and they will only get better. They're young, cap friendly, and fun to watch.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Gaucho on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:05 pm

Maatta, not even close.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:07 pm

Kind of surprised at the Niskanen mentions...he's been ok, but I haven't been overly impressed.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Froggy on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:10 pm

i think Bortuzzo is the obvious choice here.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Gaucho on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:13 pm

Froggy wrote:i think Bortuzzo is the obvious choice here.


More obvious than a 19-year-old defenseman making the jump out of junior, on a deep team with 8 dmen on one-way-contracts?
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Jim on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:21 pm

Everyone wanted to eject Jokinen before the season started, I am surprised he isn't getting more votes.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby RisslingsMissingTeeth on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:22 pm

I would be more surprised at Fleury if I did not think that the coaching adjustments were the biggest factor in his effectiveness.

So, when I really analyze the word "surprise" I look at it as who has done something furthest from my expectations? That would be Jokinen. He was a Hurricane cast-off and I truly thought he would just disappear this year.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby GSdrums87 on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:23 pm

Jim wrote:Everyone wanted to eject Jokinen before the season started, I am surprised he isn't getting more votes.

RisslingsMissingTeeth wrote:I would be more surprised at Fleury if I did not think that the coaching adjustments were the biggest factor in his effectiveness.

So, when I really analyze the word "surprise" I look at it as who has done something furthest from my expectations? That would be Jokinen. He was a Hurricane cast-off and I truly thought he would just disappear this year.


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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby columbia on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:24 pm

Jim wrote:Everyone wanted to eject Jokinen before the season started


I don't believe that was true.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Take the Body Shoot the Puck on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:24 pm

Maatta. I figured Despres would be here full time until Scuderi was signed, then assumed our defense was set. Along comes Maatta and we have a 19 year old rookie defenseman who made the team straight out of juniors...NEVER saw HCDB allowing that.
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Re: Biggest Surprise Player so far?

Postby Froggy on Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:25 pm

Gaucho wrote:
Froggy wrote:i think Bortuzzo is the obvious choice here.


More obvious than a 19-year-old defenseman making the jump out of junior, on a deep team with 8 dmen on one-way-contracts?


well, the fact that maatta made the team under those circumstances, along with his 1st rd pedigree, makes his success this season not that surprising to me. He is well ahead of the developmental curve, though.

I think Bortuzzo's quality of play is a bigger surprise because it seemed to come out of nowhere.
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