Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

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Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:09 am

I think Pens NEED to re-sign Morrow. Morrow played great for the Pens in the regular season before playing with a split kneecap during the playoffs. Also, if that's how well he played with a split kneecap, it screams pretty loudly how good he still is.

Losing Cooke takes away a lot of toughness from this team. Morrow may not play the same type of game, but he's a freight train on the ice. Out of all the moves Shero made, this was my favorite one and the one I think he needs to not let slip through his fingers.

I wish he would buy-out or trade Jokinen to keep Morrow.

You can write this down, but the big buzzword come the trade deadline will be "toughness." All you'll hear is how the Penguins need to "add grit" or something to that effect.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Froggy on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:27 am

too late to buy anyone out. Plus, intangibles aside, i just don't think Morrow is going to give you enough on the scoresheet at this point in his career to justify the amt it would cost to sign him.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:39 am

Froggy wrote:too late to buy anyone out. Plus, intangibles aside, i just don't think Morrow is going to give you enough on the scoresheet at this point in his career to justify the amt it would cost to sign him.


Didn't know that about the buyout, but they can make trades.

Morrow put up 14 point in his 15 regular season games with the Pens: 6g 8a.

He played with a split kneecap in the playoffs which is pretty darn rough. I think he'd be perfect on the third line. He can still produce and adds a type of physical play that I don't know this team has had in many many years.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Idoit40fans on Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:51 am

Is a huge non-factor in the record or goal differential.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby It'sagreatdayforhockey! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:04 pm

If we are talking about non-resigning mistakes, I'd put Murray above Morrow at what he signed for. But both are in the luxury we can't afford boat.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Idoit40fans on Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:35 pm

Is morrow a luxury?
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby FallenHero96 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:53 pm

Well he didn't sign anywhere yet, right? I'd bring him back, but only on the cheap.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby heshootsandscores on Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:19 pm

Now we have to play against him in Montreal...gonna miss him.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby It'sagreatdayforhockey! on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:10 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Is morrow a luxury?


I would think so. The team was playing well before any of the deadline acquisitions and that is essentially the team we have headed into the season (minus Cooke, plus Scuderi). There is even less of a need for a top 6 now (which Morrow may no longer be suited for) and the only "hole" is in the bottom 6. Sure Morrow would be a great fit there, but that role could be filled by a younger/cheaper/faster option or a similar deadline pickup, no? Especially being so close to the salary cap (or over as the case may be) as it is.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Scott on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:15 pm

Provided Morrow wishes to even return to Pittsburgh.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Rylan on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:32 pm

How is not signing Murray a mistake? He was not very good in the playoffs and with the signing of Scuds he was expendable anyways.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Stick_licker on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:37 pm

It'sagreatdayforhockey! wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote:Is morrow a luxury?


I would think so. The team was playing well before any of the deadline acquisitions and that is essentially the team we have headed into the season (minus Cooke, plus Scuderi). There is even less of a need for a top 6 now (which Morrow may no longer be suited for) and the only "hole" is in the bottom 6. Sure Morrow would be a great fit there, but that role could be filled by a younger/cheaper/faster option or a similar deadline pickup, no? Especially being so close to the salary cap (or over as the case may be) as it is.


Also lost Kennedy. I think we've lost a lot of our hurry and hustle guys in Cooke and Kennedy. Not that I'm saying Morrow is the replacement for that, but I think it needs to be addressed.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby penny lane on Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:46 pm

I'd like to see Brendan Morrow remain a penguin.

And still if he leaves and only Jokinen is a penguin, all of moves of GM Shero were fine.
None of them were the reason for the boston disgrace.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:59 pm

Would have targeted Morrow over Dags. Really liked him on the 3rd line and spot duty on the 2nd.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Steve Dave on Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:58 pm

Pavel Bure wrote:Would have targeted Morrow over Dags. Really liked him on the 3rd line and spot duty on the 2nd.


Agree
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Kaizer on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:26 pm

morrow and jokinen were fairly amazing together.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Pavel Bure wrote:Would have targeted Morrow over Dags. Really liked him on the 3rd line and spot duty on the 2nd.


Morrow would never have taken league minimum.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:48 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
Pavel Bure wrote:Would have targeted Morrow over Dags. Really liked him on the 3rd line and spot duty on the 2nd.


Morrow would never have taken league minimum.

Okay. Would have moved Nisky for a bag of pucks to re-sign him
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby knives of ice on Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:14 am

this is by far the biggest thing that upsets me about the offseason. its just very hard to find players like morrow
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:34 am

Rylan wrote:How is not signing Murray a mistake? He was not very good in the playoffs and with the signing of Scuds he was expendable anyways.


You do realize he was playing with a split kneecap, right? It's one thing to play with bruises, pulled muscles or shoulder problems. A split kneecap is pretty terrible to play on.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Hugo Stiglitz on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:38 am

penny lane wrote:I'd like to see Brendan Morrow remain a penguin.

And still if he leaves and only Jokinen is a penguin, all of moves of GM Shero were fine.
None of them were the reason for the boston disgrace.


The moves he made were great and I like Jokinen as a Penguin. And yes, none were the reason before the Boston disgrace.

However, Jokinen doesn't address any real need of the Penguins, Morrow does. Especially with Cooke's departure, this team is going to lack a lot of toughness. Tough players will be #1 on the priority list come the deadline now.

Morrow is a type of power forward we have really not had since the early 90's. Morrow is a freight train on the ice and can chip in goals.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby columbia on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:44 am

I definitely would like to see him back, but it doesn't seem at all likely.
Then again, apparently no other team is beating down the door to sign him.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby KG on Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:28 am

I'd like to find a way to get Morrow back as well. Shero is just going to be looking to add someone like him at the deadline again anyway. As we have seen, the prices for these type of players are worth a premium at the deadline. Off season "it is just money." If we could sign Morrow for a 1 year deal. I'm in...

In order to fit Morrow in, more then Niskanen would have to be moved.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:17 am

Not directed at your post but a lot if this sentiment in general: My thing is what can we do at the deadline?

Even if we trade Nisky, we need to fill that spot most likely. Leaving us with very little cap room for an even below average deadline pick up.

I guess we could bury Glass? He might be tradable? Trading Jussi but he was so much in demand a team gave him away or actually a negative return.

Just curious - unless I am missing something?

Also agreed to afford Morrow something else besides one trade needs done.
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Re: Not Re-signing Morrow a HUGE mistake

Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:50 am

Am i the only one who watched morrow play last year? He sucked with the stars and continued sucking with the pens. Getting him was dumb at the time and in retrospect, and bringig him back would be equally dumb. He is too slow to play on the penguins.
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