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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby columbia on Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:22 am

Can he skate?
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby mikey287 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:28 am

Re: Payerl from when we signed him here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57739&p=2039207&hilit=Payerl#p2039283

Hopefully this was on point enough where we can use it as a base and maybe netwolf can just update on progression from it and add in his own thoughts as well, as they are much appreciated by all.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby pcm on Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:58 am

Here's what Fitzgerald has to say about him:

"He's big, he can skate and he can shoot the puck. He bangs, he crashes. He's a guy that we believe can fill a role on our club.""

Not much, but sounds like he's got the tools to contribute in the NHL.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby netwolf on Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:13 pm

Day 2 is up if you're bored: http://letsgopens.com/camp_reports.php?id=83

Includes notes on Payerl for those that were asking.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby Gaucho on Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:21 pm

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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby columbia on Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:26 pm

Oi Oi Oi
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby meow on Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:36 pm

From the couple of games I saw London play this year, Maatta impressed me much, much more than Harrington did.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby bwatt22 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:44 pm

Harrington's game isn't something that's supposed to jump out and impress you, though. He's also probably going to have a slower development curve than most people around here are thinking. Guys with his playing style and skill set don't really pop out at even 20, 21. Take a bit longer to make it to the bigs.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby netwolf on Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:05 pm

Beveridge wrote:
columbia wrote:Any overage aspect at play in this camp?..I recall Tangradi being at one of these, when he really should have advanced past that stage.

Looks like 24 is the oldest according to the list Pens put out. Hartzell and Rowney (appears to be a ufa invite)

Looks to be a young group to me. Megna is only other Pens property above the age of 22.

I'm sure you meant more of years spent at these prospect camps and that I have no idea.

There isn't a ton of pro experience this time around that's for sure. Dumoulin has 1 AHL season under his belt. McNeill played 40+ games in Wheeling. Samuelsson has played 2 years pro. Maatta and Harrington got a couple of AHL playoff games in last year. Kuhnhackl turned pro last year, but injuries limited him to a handful of games. Megna, Payerl, and Uher made their pro debuts last year as well. None of the goalies have any pro time to this point.

As far as trips to the Pens Development Camp, that's a little different. I don't have records on it, but I think this is Samuelsson's 3rd or 4th. I think he attended once while still in college but not sure. D'Agostino was a 4 year college guy, but has been to this before. Didn't realize he was drafted all the way back in 2008. Might be 3 or 4 for Kuhnhackl too.

I think the short answer is, yes, it's a bit of a greener group than before and there's no one as established (if that's how you want to put it) as Tangradi or Despres in this group. :wink:
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby Idoit40fans on Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:45 pm

Future is grim if netwolf sees no one better than tangradi at prospect camp pop
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby The Snapshot on Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:37 pm

A guy like Kuhnhackl jumping back into being the prospect they hoped he would be when he signed is the kind of bluebird this team needs in terms of young forward depth. Megna is another guy who could change the landscape if he were to make a big jump. The top six is set, but it would be awesome to get some youth and hunger on the bottom 6 - especially with guys who still may have top 6 skills in some areas of the game.

Right now for the most part we have bottom six veterans with no upside, or bottom six young guys like Vitale who have upside, but only in as much as he might become a very good bottom 6 guy instead of a sometimes healthy scratch.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby pcm on Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:56 pm

It's a sad state when soon to be 28 year old Joe Vitale is a "young guy" on the team.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:30 am

He isn't even top 10 of the regular nhl young guys.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby FallenHero96 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:32 am

bwatt22 wrote:Harrington's game isn't something that's supposed to jump out and impress you, though. He's also probably going to have a slower development curve than most people around here are thinking. Guys with his playing style and skill set don't really pop out at even 20, 21. Take a bit longer to make it to the bigs.


Not saying that you are wrong, but that is exactly the opposite of what his coach on the London Knights Dale Hunter has been saying about him. Apparently he thinks Harrington's playing style will allow him to adapt quickly and he says he thinks Harrington could make it to the NHL this season.

I don't see him in the NHL this season, but it seems everyone is happy with his development so far.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby mikey287 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:47 am

Having seen a lot of Harrington, I really think he plays a mature game and is a sleeper pick of mine to hang around training camp a lot longer than some might expect. He's a sharp kid.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby murphydump55 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:00 am

mikey287 wrote:Having seen a lot of Harrington, I really think he plays a mature game and is a sleeper pick of mine to hang around training camp a lot longer than some might expect. He's a sharp kid.


I agree, my friend is a scout for the London Knights and he also says the same about Harrington. He raves about his non flashy, but effective play. I too expected him to turn some heads in camp and stick around until the end.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby pcm on Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:15 pm

^Yet another reason why I think some room in the top 4 needs opening... (Not for Harrington, but Despres moves up, Harrington or Dumoulin takes his spot).
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby columbia on Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:21 pm

pcm wrote:^Yet another reason why I think some room in the top 4 needs opening... (Not for Harrington, but Despres moves up, Harrington or Dumoulin takes his spot).


I think that issue can be resolved 14-15, with Orpik taking a paycut and becoming a 3rd pair guy or him signing elsewhere.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 2 report posted)

Postby Froggy on Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:35 pm

i see no need to rush Despres if it means cutting a better veteran in order to do it. He's not going anywhere, and will benefit another year of playing mostly protected minutes with time on the #2 pp unit. Plus, letang will probably get concussed again, and he'll get a shot at bigger minutes.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 1 report is up)

Postby bwatt22 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:58 pm

FallenHero96 wrote:
bwatt22 wrote:Harrington's game isn't something that's supposed to jump out and impress you, though. He's also probably going to have a slower development curve than most people around here are thinking. Guys with his playing style and skill set don't really pop out at even 20, 21. Take a bit longer to make it to the bigs.


Not saying that you are wrong, but that is exactly the opposite of what his coach on the London Knights Dale Hunter has been saying about him. Apparently he thinks Harrington's playing style will allow him to adapt quickly and he says he thinks Harrington could make it to the NHL this season.

I don't see him in the NHL this season, but it seems everyone is happy with his development so far.

I'm A-okay with being wrong on him, I think somebody who can move the puck but plays a more conservative game would benefit our team greatly.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 3 recap up)

Postby netwolf on Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:15 pm

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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 3 recap up)

Postby meow on Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:18 pm

Marianne Watkins was there today?? Jesus, I still am terrified of that woman.
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 3 recap up)

Postby netwolf on Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:25 pm

Yep, and she's listed as the Pens's official skating consultant on the team site. Has been for a while I think. http://penguins.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=56530
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 3 recap up)

Postby bwatt22 on Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:04 pm

Glad to hear some of the prospects starting to stand out, Sundqvist has decent height, maybe he needs a bit more bulk? How is he on the puck physically? Does he make enough plays with his body for the North American sized/stylized game?
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Re: Pens Development Camp July 16-20 (Day 3 recap up)

Postby pcm on Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:03 pm

As mentioned on the first page, Oscar Sunqdvist is a guy I'm looking forward to. He just signed another contract with his Swedish team though and will probably play another year or 2 there... unless Pens brass convince him to come over to the AHL sooner, which would be nice, as he needs to learn the NA game.

Great to hear about Payerl... looking promising for his chances in camp.

Here's an article about Blaine Byron, compares his game to Bergeron's. http://allpuck.com/blaine-byron-is-putt ... n-the-map/
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