Letang Extended; 8 years 7.25mm, Limited no trade (15 teams)

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If true:

Let him walk after next season and take a final run with him as #1 Dman
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5%
Sign him and Malkin, rest of the roster be damned
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5%
Sign him and trade Malkin/let Malkin walk
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No votes
Trade Letang at draft/before season starts
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Shut up NAN
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7%
 
Total votes : 243

Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby penny lane on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:41 pm

The shame of it all is that Letang has a great shot and other great skills . If he would take less to stay, I'm all for it.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby SoCalPenguin on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:43 pm

6.5 is prolly the fair value similar to Ericsson.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby IntangibleBeer on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:48 pm

Wow! :shock: Seriously delusional meds at work here.

If:
1. Bylsma is replaced by someone who can teach him to play defense first
2. "Getting to our game" now means that d-men coming up ice have realistic options against trapping defenses
3. He can be talked into accepting something reasonable, i.e. $6M tops / year

Then you keep him.

If any of those conditions are not met, you absolutely trade Letang before the start of the season. That means RS has to deal with all of this ASAP.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Hawkeynut on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:52 pm

$6m max. Anymore and he walks. No way in hell does Letang deserve $8m. That is Crosby $$.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby DontToewsMeBro on Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:54 pm

To all the dudes that think Letang will make under $7 mil.--LOL.

Sergei Gonchar (who is 39 years old) just signed at $5 mil. a year. There is no way Letang leaves money on the table in his chance to cash in.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby shafnutz05 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:11 pm

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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Desiato on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:16 pm

My main concern about Letang is that his game is heavily based on athleticism provided by young legs. His speed usually hides a lot of fundamental flaws.

As players age--typically sometime past 25--the mental game must evolve to make up for reduced athleticism. I'm not sure he has the mental discipline to remain elite as he ages, especially with the pounding his undersized body has taken.

A problem trading Letang is that the Canadiens may be his Hurricanes. If so, the Pens will have a difficult time getting a player back who can immediately step into his shoes. This wasn't an issue for Staal, because his role on a healthy Pens team was not reflective of his value as top-two center.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby The U on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:20 pm

Well the Penguins need to get younger, faster, and bigger at forward. Trading Letang could certainly solve that problem in one move. The return for him would be substantial.

Would we even want a draft pick in return like we did with the Staal-Sutter trade? I feel like we got the pick because we couldn't get/didn't want anybody else off their roster. I'd like to swing a trade with somebody who can offer you young roster players who can help right now.

Between him and Fleury (who has much less value in a trade) we could start re-tooling the roster.

I don't want to trade Letang but if he wants that much money you are almost forced to move him. It's kind of hard to bring yourself to trade away a Norris Trophy caliber Dman though isn't it?

Trading away Fleury isn't even a decision...you just do it. $5 million for a guy that will be a HUGE question mark come playoff time no matter what he does in the regular season. Keep Vokoun and bring in another vet or let a younger guy try to win the job.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby GSdrums87 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:41 pm

The U wrote:Well the Penguins need to get younger, faster, and bigger at forward. Trading Letang could certainly solve that problem in one move. The return for him would be substantial.

Would we even want a draft pick in return like we did with the Staal-Sutter trade? I feel like we got the pick because we couldn't get/didn't want anybody else off their roster. I'd like to swing a trade with somebody who can offer you young roster players who can help right now.

Between him and Fleury (who has much less value in a trade) we could start re-tooling the roster.

I don't want to trade Letang but if he wants that much money you are almost forced to move him. It's kind of hard to bring yourself to trade away a Norris Trophy caliber Dman though isn't it?

Trading away Fleury isn't even a decision...you just do it. $5 million for a guy that will be a HUGE question mark come playoff time no matter what he does in the regular season. Keep Vokoun and bring in another vet or let a younger guy try to win the job.

I agree with Fleury being a huge question mark. The team is too strapped for cash as it is, and needs all the space it can get in the cap to accommodate to give the big 2 a decent supporting cast. If you can find a replacement or even a suitable backup for Vokoun, you do it to save the money.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Pens4Life on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:50 pm

Maximum 6M per year.. If he wants more,trade him!
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby knives of ice on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:50 pm

penny lane wrote:The shame of it all is that Letang has a great shot and other great skills . If he would take less to stay, I'm all for it.



great shot?

he has one of the worst shots amongst any top tier dman. he has to take so much off to get it on net since he's so inaccurate.

i can't think of any of the top dmen that doesnt have a better shot than letang. shooting is probably the weakest skill he has.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Staggy on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:56 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
Boogeyman wrote:They tried Neal with Sid this season.


i don't think this is true at all. at least not for more than a few odd shifts


They tried Neal with Crosby the same way they tried Staal with Malkin after 07. Which is to say they sometimes had their shifts overlap.


DB put them together for a couple games after Malkin's concussion during that southern swing we got rocked on right before our streak. They didn't look particularly good, but two games is hardly enough to evaluate them, let alone for them to develop chemistry.

Regardless, none of this will matter anyways.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Big Easy Pens Fan on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:57 pm

AlexPKeaton wrote:Letang to Colorado for the #1 pic.


Ding...ding...ding. We have a winner. :fist:

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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby sil on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:58 pm

COL would make a good trade partner if he wants to command 7-8M.

The three realistic assets I'd trade him for, in any particular order...

Siemens (big-bodied, physical, & high-pedigree, shut down defenseman)
McGinn (tough-as-nails third line forward with great speed and ability in the corners)
2013 1st (1st overall...so probably Seth Jones)
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Gaucho on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:59 pm

I can think of only a handul of defensemen I'd be willing to pay that kind of money. Most of them are retired and none of them was a Norris finalist this year.

Let's just say I'm glad I don't have to make that kind of decision.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby IMFC on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:01 pm

I just want to punch Dallas in the head for giving Gonchar that much. Wrecks the market entirely. Their ROI on that is guaranteed neg.

And as for 'norris candidates' being moved - I don't see Suter in a Preds jersey, so yeah, it happens.

We need players that are in good in front of nets. Def, Fwd, I don't care as long as they can get sticks on pucks in traffic.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby columbia on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:03 pm

I'm still interested in Taylor Hall.....he'd be a *perfect* winger for Crosby.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby meow on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:05 pm

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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby dhep16 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:05 pm

columbia wrote:I'm still interested in Taylor Hall.....he'd be a *perfect* winger for Crosby.


Wouldn't that be nice? Too bad it won't happen. I wouldn't mind Eberle either. He's just as nasty.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Beveridge on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:06 pm

columbia wrote:I'm still interested in Taylor Hall.....he'd be a *perfect* winger for Crosby.



They could even sync their injuries together. :fist:
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby Staggy on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:13 pm

columbia wrote:I'm still interested in Taylor Hall.....he'd be a *perfect* winger for Crosby.


So is Edmonton :lol:
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pens2005 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:16 pm

pcm wrote:
Beveridge wrote:I doubt James Neal would be worthless playing with Sid (when he isn't injured for half the season).


Neal would never play with Sid if Dupuis' here.


That's a ridiculous notion if there is a new coach in play. Neal WOULD play with Sid and it would TOTELLY work.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pens2005 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm

skullman80 wrote:I highly doubt Colorado is gonna move the 1st overall pick.


If you dangle Letang and fleury over their heads they could.

A guy like Letang isn't a dime a dozen. Say what you will, but he is the most dynamic two way defenseman in the last 10 years (mistakes aside).
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby pfim on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:26 pm

I can't think of a scenario in which the team trades its 26 mins/game defenseman for a draft pick, no matter how high.
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Re: Pens believe Letang will want $7-$8MM/Year

Postby topshelf66 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:27 pm

Subban reportedly has won the Norris.
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